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sereje4ka1  
#21 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 7:35:55 PM(UTC)
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There is a limit of the body to absorb in a short time, so if you switch the lid has become fat protein

Also nonsense.

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#22 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 7:51:42 PM(UTC)
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Sergey, I love it when you write "nonsense agbnity". But seriously, I know many long runs. You can certainly argue that this is nonsense and that can indeed be nonsense. But not only do I read much about that I also experience.

Let's think together. How much protein in an egg have? 4 grams? You understand that in order to consume 100 grams of protein should eat 100/4 = 25 Benny eggs! Furthermore, there is a limit of 30 grams of protein (human) to dinner in terms of absorption capacity. Other simple protein causes kidney handicap It knows all atlatim.
Time consumption of protein. Take a long run as an example. While muscle fibers called Sprint. Therefore you must consume protein after a workout to rebuild ashriri, itoshsh etc. This is the most effective time for protein consumption.

In Merton on average 5,000-6,000 burning calories. No man's ability to consume the amount of calories a day without prejudice to briotho. A 3-day period called carbo load that bmaska eat a lot of carbohydrates. One of the good-CARB. Not because it is "empty" (incidentally where?) Because there are a lot of carbohydrates in rice vs pasta or potatoes so eat carbohydrates and lyrics databases (in the liver and muscles) in gliocognim. The gliocognim fall apart easily and become energy. This is all done just to run 42 kilometers fucking! It's nothing compared to olterot.

Now all this is that you can forget about consuming thousands of calories as you specified. No choice, burn or the gliocognis's happening to him? ...
There's a lot of useful information about fat burning rate nation gliocognim entirely to consumption greatly.
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#23 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 8:10:10 PM(UTC)
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I will reply briefly because I lack the strength to do your homework.

1. the limit of 30 grams doesn't exist, you live in myths of the odibilderim retarded in the 1970s. Period.
2. to consume 100 grams protein can I eat cheese 500גרם taste (easily) or steak or chicken breast 500 g or 300 g Parmesan, and I don't even feel it.
3. protein doesn't cause any serious problems for humans, you live in myths of the odibilderim retarded from the 1970s.
4. protein malabsorption is a lengthy process 2 3 to 24 hours. So why do you think even had to eat this immediately after running Maybe a few hours before the run Answer-because you live odibilderim tomtamim of myths is minor.
5. no problem consuming 6000 calories a day without harming human health with a healthy digestive system. A matter of energy in-energy out.


I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but gave no updated list loaded here really suitable for a forum at odibilderim to receive their knowledge of muscle fitnes magazines & 1970
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#24 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 8:15:52 PM(UTC)
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I recommend that you check the information against reliable sources, especially the books of
Lyle McDonald
Alan Aragon
And others. Some ״דוקטור lying somewhere dietitian and vegan about running.

And of course read the articles themselves of magazines

The Journal of Sports Science and Medicine

And – various sports. To read the studies themselves rather than someone's ו״הסבר״ ״תרגום״

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#25 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 10:19:37 PM(UTC)
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Sergei, in International journal of sport nutrition and exercise metabolism says:
A suggested maximum protein intake based on bodily needs, weight control, and avoiding protein toxicity evidence would be of approximately 25% of energy requirements at approximately 2 to 2.5 g x kg (-1) x d (1), corresponding to 176 g protein per day for an individual on a 80 kg 12, 000kJ/d diet. This is well below the theoretical maximum safe intake range for an 80 kg person (285 to 365 g/d).

Anyway, it depends on many factors and varies person to person. The most important thing is to consume everything and enjoy your trip:)
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#26 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 10:27:29 PM(UTC)
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Athmer, Yes those numbers I believe them. I don't think you need much more than that, it's a matter of taste.

But in your quote there is no limit to absorb protein. Do not use problem body part of amino acids for energy.

And no protein becomes fat (although theoretical path exists, you just can't be practical in conditions where it will be held, storing fat work differently). Also carbohydrates not become fat, unless:

1. eat a very minimal amount of fat (less than 5-10% of calories)

2. positive caloric balance.

It's not practical, again unless you eat only rice and chicken breast cooked in water or low-fat protein.

The theory of de novo lipogenesis massively (creating fat carbohydrates) come from experiments on mice, not the back herself.

What happens in humans is sparing of fat by mean carbohydrates should be the body to use carbohydrates, so long as the stored fat rather than carbohydrates available. (Note: no help to eat some fat)

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#27 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 10:40:40 PM(UTC)
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BTW, about the wrong argument of limitation for 30 grams. The opposite can be true.
At least old people did experiments on protein pulse feeding to eat the most protein-12 in good boy (80% if I remember correctly) and it is showing improvement in parameters related to the absorption of protein nitrogen balance.
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 12:50:23 AM(UTC)
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Without insults or dragged to all kinds of speculation about what the body was or not, I will try to summarize what has been said: the point is to eat enough, and not be hungry on the other hand, minimum weight, my personal experience (based on a few, some sports practices differ and some mistakes) and the experience of others in Forum and beyond shows along time eat some combination of carbohydrates , Fats and proteins that keep us on the legs and satisfied. Food is a very personal matter, and habits, and various spare hanmrim loves, but as I understand, something like 3000-4000 calories a day would be enough for most of us, and it should weigh around three pounds, plus or minus, depending on what and how we eat.
True, some people eat less, but at least they note: short trip to eat less (actually to be overdrawn caloric) but to be more than three days is already sucks, and the long iotrchnerah less healthy. And I must say that I personally don't like to be hungry. I'm here to have fun, and that's disturbing.
The debate about exactly what to eat is a little hurt anyone eats what makes him good, most who refer specifically mentions steam fast carbohydrates: pasta, buckwheat noodles, instant mashed potatoes, surprising no one mentioned Couscous and bulgur packing mostly less successful that long cooking most others just require boiling water, making slasher fuel amounts, and Nell most lentils.
By the way, rice goes bad checked heights.
In terms of raw stuff, they all rely on different types of snacks, with chocolate and/or Granola, trail mix and nuts. Professional snack certainly good option, are extremely expensive and ugly, but there's quite a few people mbsotim of them, especially in the community of cyclists (the climbers I know poor people to buy them) and remember that long btiol will be hard to find a random protein bars and jazz writer ...
Last question: the main advantage of dried vegetables is the point, there is no difference in principle between a packet of Knorr instant rice and vegetables to rice Flanagan's own dried vegetables, except the second baoptzia has less preservatives, and this is better. To the question why dried vegetables at all because some of their nutritional values are preserved, and you can eat delicious noodles in warm water with just salt, but if you add dried vegetables that taste good.
I dug enough.
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:01:54 AM(UTC)
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I have no idea about proteins and grams, but about daily consumption-I've ever had, and I was still a little hungry for most of the day. And also a lot of rzati. And in General, long distance is not healthy for the body in many areas.
When I threw me some towns, more food (really hit me the hiker real hunger but I allowed myself to eat and load). Get along with it.

And meals of Knorr had to only hold 3-4 days in the field, and maybe two or three packages I sent to myself. And I'm sure they could hold even more time.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:50:49 AM(UTC)
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Exactly also published an article about food in outgearlab tours, can be taken away.

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#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:10:48 PM(UTC)
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Sergey, you remind me of my mother-in-law if she saw something on the Internet so it must be true. I read a lot about the business and the best memory from the studies I read were from the late ' 90s and 70. Following your post I ran again and read more. Yes, it's best to consume an average person not 30 grams of protein per meal, but 40 grams. OMFG! What a difference. In cases of odibilderim as specified, that magic to 2.7 grams per kilogram per day. But when endurance is 1.8 atlatim

Incidentally, I would like to see you run some 200 se 6000 calories after you ate:)

In other words what you wrote – where to get Fire your trainer and dietitian v.

What interests me is or you have engaged in sport and your diet. I don't care it's just swollen muscle riding, running, swimming.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:28:58 PM(UTC)
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Leave, go with the myths.
If you believe in nothing 30גרם for dinner. Illiteracy is high.
But to some, I'll give you an example where I ate between 360 to 450 grams of protein in one long, and that's before counting the two loaves of bread, which have at least 50 grams protein.
(The meat here 1800גרם = 42oz)

About the value of the 6000קלוריות is really not difficult, if you eat smart (= suitable for purpose of). Eating fatty food when you have 6000 calories a day is not wise. And Yes, it is a daily

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#33 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 7:20:44 AM(UTC)
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Only treat what I wrote on my meager meal and question things.
1. mention the weights (80 + 20 + bread co.) one meal. Agree but still del. ..
2. I make trips in recent years are of several days and long journeys of several weeks. (I guess the long btiol I couldn't resist such a diet regime)
Even my brother who came down to the last trip insisted on carrying more food that we don't eat enough. And we really don't eat enough.
4. I learned about the importance of calories and I eat probably internalized little by
5-Spartan, modest, austere, with little ".
So you don't need to search a historical finding or arichaologi but simply to realize the meaning of words without regard to historical findings or marble or arichaologim.

Good day!
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:13:13 AM(UTC)
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Sergey, you made my day with your photos! :)
I don't want to hatookach. Leave. The important thing is to enjoy the trip that everyone does it his way and amount of calories he:)
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:21:42 PM(UTC)
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I'd like to add some of my professional knowledge in the field,

There is a limit of absorption of protein, 30 grams, so athletes eat 5 meals a day (which is anyway recommended health).

Beyond that, the body uses protein in either of the following forms:

-Caloric deficit, burn the proteins into energy (4 calories per gram hablevon)

-Excess build-up of proteins, like each of the food groups, body fat which is used as a stash House.

Either way a positive caloric balance will lead to weight gain and negative for descent.

Negative caloric balance which includes strenuous physical exercise will force your body to dissolve muscle tissue for energy production.

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#36 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:58:22 PM(UTC)
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For not log them bullshit.
Over and over and over and over and over

Highly recommend this guy's (same network). And here's a good article on the subject (and full)

Http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat/how-we-get-fat.html/loss





(Yes, 30 grams per meal is bullshit, like 5 meals a day is crap)

And here's an article, not necessarily relevant for atlatim, but rather emphasizes how this issue of 30 g is nonsense.

Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10357740

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#37 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:32:35 PM(UTC)
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Guys, let's get this over with.
Sergey, you realized that an opinion (but who cares he dooch correct).
Let's talk about how dry soy sauce? Anyone tried? This is what I need because rice noodle leave nothing without the sauce.
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:09:39 PM(UTC)
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Before the soybeans. How to dry dressings?
And can be difficult to dry soybeans or having very large amounts that I think there are lots and lots of fluids. If I'm not mistaken there is a paste of soy and maybe that's the point.
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#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:00:58 PM(UTC)
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Allow permission to take a step back and explain how dryers or any? I never did not understand so that in English at first.
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:35:57 PM(UTC)
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Until I understood chta, be it in sauces for example (say, tomatoes), prepare it at home, then let it dry in the oven at a very low temperature (40 degrees) for many hours. At the end are supposed to receive pollen that lumps and take a walk.
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