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#1 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:37:15 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = iobelsh; 586683] changing. (I also went in 2012).

I think this picture illustrates why best and tames the rest I mean when we talk about quality.

I look at this picture and remembered in oedipoda that half of it should go snowboarding under because nobody can walk upright on the slopes there are crazy
And more than that off the same melody that pleasure is very small and quite a few places and think some still have way to make trekking culture in Europe
And a few other travelers would go in the Israel National Trail (INT) if he were a little more regulated and a little less "rough".

Only someone who has gone here and there can figure out how much energy a regulated travel saving.
Sections in the Israel National Trail (INT) with a cumulative reduction of about 600 meters I had many more difficult sections of the Alta via and a cumulative increase of TMB 1200 meters.

I went a little politics. We place relative to the Gentiles in the average traveler is doing good over music or stream oedipoda.

For me it is part of aachoiia. And where the money will come for  The Ministry of tourism does not put one weight for Who has authority in the field.

Don't live in peace with those marks the trails. Some travelers name (/fixed amount of landfills water), others mark their trails

In other notations. Seen something similar in Europe?  And although every year thousands of hikers every year for a significant portion of them from abroad.

If we hold here on long enough, the trail is no less maintained than AV1/TMB.    Is it going to happen until 2065?

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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:03:30 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 586698] we are in a good place for a wrong abroad. the average traveler is doing good over music or stream oedipoda.

I really don't agree. Perhaps the Israeli average traveler who comes to Israel for holding up better than the European average traveler, because Israel kept trekking Affairs percentile and very limited and very, very young (Yes, of course there are exceptions ) and very, very addicted to it.

However, in Europe it is a matter of judgement, you see children, seniors, families, trekking for days without fear and without self-indulgence. So with all due respect to the God of Israel, the traveler looking wider on the population and its access trails and tours, we're not close at all to foreign Nations.

On the other hand, in the context of this thread, I'm not sure about the conditions of the trails and their maintenance.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:02:27 AM(UTC)
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When it comes to quality Bill we're light-years from Gentiles.
It is unclear what drag. Are you Bill maintained and marked attracts hikers, or multiple people brought increased maintenance and investment.
In our country, beyond the bureaucracy's centipede objective reasons that must be remembered. For example, you can't sign up for like driving abroad since the signs are stolen.
Similarly, it is impossible to place since desert fountains and fill them • and steal them from the water.
Neither is likely to "hostel for the wooden hikers survive more than a few days before the ice and the other uses vans ishona.
Relative to objective difficulties, the country is not a bad achievement, including the Israel National Trail, but compared to Europe or the United States is mocking LERCH.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:20:10 AM(UTC)
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We forget that we are not Europeans, we in the Middle East. Very few of us love trails as in Europe and USA, meego population. Considering the difficulties

I think I made a pretty good job. A very long way to be like them, but the Europeans where a lot of years and we're not even 70.

I sat with Danny Gaspar two years ago against the Jewish week idea to improve the support for At the hearing, Danny asked, "and why not set up dozens of shelters and travelers rpiogy

As in the United States and Europe, "the officials were not so keks, understood what it was about.

I would be happy if the Jewish will tap and between Degania to Kfar Kish and Hart Angel Bill will maintain the sandy back and burying a stream. It is part of the wars of the Jews.

Until we unite these three bodies to one so not have salvation.

The National Lottery computer/thinking of financing the establishment Israel Trail Association.  If anyone wants to help, I'm ready to connect it to those who still believe that this society get something.

I mixed some years ago but quickly realized that a waste of time.

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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:06:54 AM(UTC)
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The change will start as soon as it lands in the tourist office who issue close to his heart.
The problem is always financially because the national level always find more urgent issues that need funding.
The Minister must do to lobby and raise dedicated fund-raising.
The JNF does just that in this success. It raised billions for land acquisition, infrastructure and research I'm talking about dedicated funding for trails provide. First and foremost, Israel National Trail, but trail and Jesus trail
Incidentally, the Jerusalem should include, in my opinion, while Bill and aforementioned Israel also for Jesus.
Need to get passports for "topic". It worked everywhere. People love the documentation.
Must first invest in infrastructure Bill. To do first thing neat signs with distances. With no problematic sections, the signs must be made of molded concrete pillars.
After having a ruler and marked evenly (Israel National Trail should be platform allowing to follow the trail without map) allow access to the main stage.
This means providing benefits and who opens the Lena and feeding along the path. In part, this means establishing individual farms in the deployment of 10-15 km.
Certainly it is possible to raise the Bedouins in favor of the deal. What better than to stay in a Bedouin tent in the middle of the desert with authentic food? The country had only encouraged it and grant benefits.
Everywhere that need to be dormatori cheap overnight as well as the option to sleep in rooms/tents.
It is clear to me that a lot of problems with land and will always find someone who will do calculations and come to the conclusion that it is not because there are not enough economic volume.
Dishearten issues always find, but everything can be solved in fundraising and subsidies. Eventually it will pay off because we have a varied landscape and historic interest without competitors.
One day I think to break up from the keyboard and start to act in favor of the subject. Without get fanatical group, there is no way something moves.
So don't be surprised if one day we start recruiting for the sake of this forum people. The younger generation is similar to the older generation. Israel National Trail has become almost standard for mshoachrri.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:26:07 PM(UTC)
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I love this discussion. Maybe here volunteer to pick up project. Raise several issues inan attempt to get into my head.

The curve of the Ministry of tourism and those of the sovereign in the field: Brett and Keck.

In order to invest in needed places charity financially. Have the Angels for (over 300) that give solution to about 1000

Travellers every night. It's a significant number. There are cheap ($ 100 per person) that give solution to about 1000 travelers.

Every night. So why have רפיוג'ים?

Best possible signage, cascade of Israel: to be able to sign for the Golan Heights. I guess he spit blood until successfully recruit

Money and receive the blessing of the authorities.

For Israel has Jews in constant wars. Who's going to raise the money? Israel National Trail is the society for the protection of nature, but the JNF

And Rhett doesn't like the members of the society. Now they put everything about legs for. Senior man Brett told me a few years ago:

"We want Brett to be part of the trail, but it. .. Of society. "

The vented some landfills water rats in the Negev on the grounds they are not environmentally friendly. The atmanot maintained by the angels.

Ensure that the Hart of long time they will design and perform the landfills and water in conjunction with the Ministry of health.

What exactly is time? Five years? Ten years? Tap water has got me head at the army base, is the result after three years.

Hart references regarding water points that they are planning not answered for two years. Can someone nag them?

I'm busy with some other things, some are more important than taps.

Ministry of tourism: three years ago, went into full man role, Minister of tourism.  He seemed to love the Israel trail.

Dani Gaspar took him for a two-day trip on the trail and the guy will start to move things. He moved things but not in Israel National Trail.

Contribution to hiking in Israel was: $ 3,000,000 to planning and construction of the Gospel in a different route from the Gospel (Fort of ionization).

Many eyebrows were raised including abroad when they heard about the initiative.  The amount invested was to close, and the number of tourists today through the Gospel? Zero reset.

All for the Gospel (of Oz).

Private money is going to help? Certainly can help, provided they use the target allotted. About 10 ( ) years Recanati family donated $ 30 million ( )

In order to establish the Israel trail. All great project ideas can bring the mooneeeeeee tourists from abroad.  Sat Committee of several dozen people for opening.

And what about this? 1. survey on bicycle trails abroad, document. I have a copy of it. 2. conceptual design of all sections of the trail. Who knows the country can plan reflective barrier

In less than a week.

And what's the day? Approximately 250 km of the trail of 1200 km planned marked with hundreds of volunteers (!).

Two years ago President Peres has been invited to inaugurate a section of 15 km in the Ramon crater.

And how many people are involved in the matter. ...... I'm afraid the money over, or rather disappears in many places between the authorities involved for.

What's left is enough contribution that one will in some time.

The registered trademark "Israel": heard from more than one person working there, "Israel is only the Israelis."

So tourists from abroad testified asked them questions if the tourists will be able to receive any response from the company.

For years the company did nothing to promote the trail abroad you believe???

But when I posted the article on Israel in national geographic (2012) are quick to take all the credit.

Google and got a camera and now the path will appear in the grid. It's a change in attitude in society for the protection of nature.

Is it possible to move things in the PS? Some people got lazy, corrupt beyond repair, all struggling with each other continuously.

And yet we have a go where many foreign travelers also how exactly happened.

Need to honestly say: Israel National Trail in the reality in which we live, it is superior in comparison to walking culture abroad compared to what we have here is certainly a noteworthy achievement!

In the forum you can talk until the end of the Decade and beyond. If cooperation between the existing institutions and the Ministry of tourism to invest money

So maybe in 2065 reach for walk to another level.

Until that happens I hope to walk as much as possible, and also trails in the country.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:30:11 PM(UTC)
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Amnon, a day I won't be able to go the distance together with some volunteer burnt

And try to move something. In the meantime, I prefer to travel. See what bore the initiative of the National Lottery

Rumors about her running for 3 years or more. Maybe the thing fell.

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#8 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2015 1:15:24 PM(UTC)
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I think I'm going to offer the minority, which outraged the most Forum members.

As I understand it, the right priorities:

1. preserving nature.

2. the welfare of people.

I will emphasize that unlike other places, the country that has severe nbazzat deficiency in open areas. The immediate result, clear and painful — destroys habitats, drying water resources, environmental values and silent extinction of many species and vegetation.

Therefore, before any action we need to examine whether it might be harmful to Inc. (including the dead ones, such as amonitim for example), flora and geological phenomena are unique.

For that matter, treat for example-by improving the infrastructure for in oedipoda (and then offer an alternative offensive).

What will be the price of such infrastructure?

A. immediate impact, possibly lasting injury, seven on the Ganges River and use it as an ecological corridor (remember what happens in the vast territory east of the river)

B. impact of the stream as a result of putting asphalt truck, mechanical tools, filling, employees, independent contractors, the guardian's bonfire, the height, the height of competition, etc.

Convenience-our noachotino or survival of and growing? What is chosen?

In my opinion, we must accept ourselves the following: whether to keep travel requires a charging infrastructure, we must give up the track. Hunters love about failed high school for the chital, the other pathways for unique property such as nesting, endemic vegetation, areas feel this or that phenomenon — in my opinion should be.

There are alternatives, and the low price:

A. signs in the lanes either side of nodes the crossing (oedipoda, heel point etc), describes the difficulty and the difficulty for replacement (e.g., section).

B. infrastructure improvements such as adding scalability easy. (I am aware of the functioning problem cm – only one of them was implemented in amlatoti with regard to other letters we do nothing for example example: Israel trail crosses the road three-bend a fortiori after huge growth in transaction volumes in place several years ago suggested to copy the node crossing STLs 7 the recommended route was raised better than that we don't miss any of it, and adds a very handsome response before ...). But anyway, I think it's easier to cause the Commission to begin functioning and to stick a few more scalability than to begin to establish infrastructure bodies.

My expectations-authorities did what you protect open spaces, so we have for what to get, and no one's going to hurt us in orbit. For all other problems are solutions.

Another point that was raised is hanging a small number of tourists traveling along the path of the infrastructure. I skip the tourists for some other reason (think margaritas in the future).

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#9 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:12:49 PM(UTC)
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Agree with move.
The primary consideration is keeping the nature, which is not an easy task in a country as small and cramped.
More need not ensure that any bill for everyone, and the idea of variants and less daring in the Israel National Trail (INT) is really nice idea.

However, you do have to be creative about water resources.
My personal dream is on manual pumps (like Government wells in India) that allow suction of water for each hiker
(Assuming nobody comes to fill 500 liters of a manual pump, maybe I'm wrong).

With all the sympathy I have for Keck-break it, and pass the powers to governmental officials as the nature and Parks Authority,
To cease to do damage to the surfaces to which they are entrusted.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2015 3:18:22 PM(UTC)
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All nature's piorist object for each type of intervention including roads, trails, pylons, whatever.
Akologistit pioristit vision of nature's best, pay ו"נכון" existed before the advent of modern man and so everything is downhill.
Who position that effort will develop productive dialogue forum of pedestrian walkways.
Or developing infrastructure for hikers to encourage foot this type of leisure, culture or the efforts.

However, it's pretty obvious to me that no one here supports putting asphalt and bulldozers. Not this kind of improvement Bill meant.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, May 31, 2015 6:13:03 AM(UTC)
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Amnon.-. maintaining the culture nature walks.
Nature is good, right, straight or right. Don't care, nature, if who Gedi rushing waterfall and stream, or transported in trucks through the streets of Tel Aviv. Care, in my opinion.
We must try to stop the destruction not of a sacred principle (there are none), but rather a simple, selfish motive of love. No one came out to field, if there will be nothing to see.
We're the same age, you remember the sea in its glory? The Golden Eagles and scores that circled above us did level The entire Negev empty huts and shacks? The hundreds of deer that fortuitous hour Golan Heights before the settings? The coral reef in Eilat? For grids? What our grandchildren will remember? Why would they want to travel?

We must remember, that we are in the minority. Most of the country, due to the uniqueness of each of the tiboria, see in nature and open spaces have to pillage and plunder. When you tap find. If the authorities find out very quickly that their motives are reversed. Caution. That's all.
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