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יענקל'ה סער  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:13:14 AM(UTC)
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At the end of ogutes go out to the TMB. I'm not willing to relinquish some perks when alone.

I can't stand sleeping bag liner. Prefer to keep a single lightweight blanket on the bed they slept.

Her half way around the world and his wife. Majestic Palm and Palm comes in addition to chocolate better get in the way. Chocolate also counts

At least until lunch. The backpack is coming to 10 kg in the morning. Self weight approx. 1.8 kg to weight it.

Apparently a new pod or pod olterliit easier.

My olteraliit dilemma is how much weight he can carry

And what's in between? I.e. lightweight backpack with good back.

What do you advise me?

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:36:52 AM(UTC)
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I have the kestrel talon 44 and 38. The talon is better for me – easy but not Spartan (weighs 1 kg).

The trip was going on 33 liters.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:51:27 AM(UTC)
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10 kg without tent launched this bedroom is definitely respectable achievement (a bit heavier side of the spectrum).
Nevertheless, the Gorilla or the Pilgrim Gossamer's new Gear can carry up to 30 pounds, and I believe they will do the job.
ZPacks's files also can carry 20 + pounds with ease, and the Fusion of Flight or will it also SixMoonDesigns (they also have a respectable back systems).
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:09:52 AM(UTC)
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I guess I don't really get the smpet-liner thing. However it seems to me that a lightweight sheet doesn't weigh much more than-liner thing.

I guess 10 kg with water. However, in my opinion, can be downloaded from this weight.
I also tefillin (400 g) storm wear and even, Yes, and some plump dates and reached 6 kg (without water).
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:19:17 AM(UTC)
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Includes water and weight 1 kg. I drink a lot and drank in the Dolomites 2-3 liters of water a day.

This chocolate a few hundred grams. Last year the partner took his chocolate this year he goes down?

To Iran. Check the backpacks by samuil has them or just online?

I have a 50 gallon and enough time to switch to a new 45-liter. It's probably more a pound off course.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:40:19 AM(UTC)
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1 kg of dates?

Why don't you try at least to take them without the seeds.

Even if I drink 2-3 liters a day, I drink too much. Still doesn't mean you have to carry all the water early today. You can fill in a way.

The Dolomites came out (if) why wouldn't I thaw snow from the top of the 20B, I appreciate that certain points in TMB possible. Sure you can plan on water in. ..

BTW, a friend who travels to Iran? Interesting ...

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:15:14 AM(UTC)
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:52:56 AM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה.
How the hell come to 10 kg without a tent, mattress, k. and cooking?
I can see 8 kg for non-professionals but growing building olterliit 2 kg-
The problem is not in but what pod.
I call you to order!
And a backpack. Z PAC or granite would be good for you. The akspd directed by Sergei is still easy but weighs twice as much of them.
But you're in heavy backpacks without back system. With 6 kg they will feel great. In 2010 it already starts to irritate.
So I again call you again.
In rafiog rafiog between the TMB needs little water because there is a lot on the way.
A key dates I treat a favorite anecdote.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:27:01 AM(UTC)
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Yankele, if the 10 kg without, AHL, mattress, and cricket, I would suggest you purchase a new bag, check the contents.
If you take even a kilo bag itself weight, a weight problem.
It really dates.
Shawarmas.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:54:43 PM(UTC)
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Don't buy a backpack without a system without going back with all your gear inside. As long as possible so would likely recognize it isn't for you. It's over, it's clear to me that for others it works otherwise would produce these products.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:26:57 PM(UTC)
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Well received at the head didn't considered all together maybe it just pounds ???

My training at Tel azekah (last year) was ten pounds on your back, that's for sure. So I took 10 kg.

Last year I took one sheet and covered myself with blankets. This year light sheet and light blanket 2

Between the covers, not carried then the accomplice chocolate, we shared a minimum first-aid kit, SOAP,

Shaving (don't give up), small shampoo and some other little things.  It might not be 10 pounds but it's not.

Will be less than last year. Have no casing back system.

Unlikely I can full of water at the beginning of September. But you can always buy.

Iran: a Belgian partner.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:27:13 PM(UTC)
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Thought about sleeping in a float, instead of taking two sheets Double float is fairly large, so you won't feel too cramped inside.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:44:56 PM(UTC)
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Firstly remind you never went out for a walk cabins (including course abroad).

Because to me-dawn if you back system and want to take the weight of the backpack, the solution is a small pod. Don't carry large equipment like volume and tent. The water volume is small relative to their weight, therefore small backpack back good system, you can use also.







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#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 8:03:51 PM(UTC)
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To sleep inside it only double float think it heavier.

Two sheets. Check the point anyway. And thanks also to

It's pretty much the direction.

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:45:38 PM(UTC)
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After considering extensive again declines. With the backpack of 1.850 kg exported 9.

This includes 2 liter water, 250 g 750 g dates and chocolates.

But it's not like a ten pound expected than carried last year.

Search easier and 8.5 kg backpack is very likely to me. The truth nine pounds are a problem too,

And that's just at the beginning of the day. To hail down

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#16 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 12:59:37 AM(UTC)
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Pillowcases tend to be more heavily than thin sheets (at least in my experience),
So if you've already-liner easy checks that you find (you said you didn't like, but there is no difference in principle between liner float ...).
I used silk liner-I suspect it's a good solution for you (but might be a bit expensive).
Silk is light, thin, pleasant to the touch and folds really small.
Don't know if there are in this country, but if you want to lose weight and volume, suggest you check.

Pod-pod interest today is talon 33 ospray. It weighs a little more than 800 g,
But with 9 kg is less comfortable anymore.
He's at his best with 7 or less, I think.
(Is cool and I like it)

Europeans seem to be going between cabins get along easily with very little pod
One day I will understand how to do it.

Spend.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:17:17 AM(UTC)
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Go with a pod of 45 litres or so. OSPREY sounds good especially your recommendations.

Big time I am willing to pay the price for your weight Cushion happy weighs in grams, 270 breaks I won't give them up.

Checking of options in regard to the seating cushion and a lot less convenient for me not to mention the price.

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Two sheets heavy weigh 600 grams. A single uncomfortable that float like liner. Double float too heavy.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the end cost me extra comfort pounds or more (the first day) mostly dates and chocolate.

It's kind of like Palm water weight drops every day. And to go it alone rather than two.

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About how to back up system? Is it enough resting weight 10-9 kg-

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#18 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:35:23 AM(UTC)
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Depending on the specific system. Exos ה58 holds great 10 kg. 15 is already significantly less. Osprey's site has a clear view to the ability to cope with weights, I was referring more to the pessimistic side of the scale (= light green)
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#19 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:39:26 AM(UTC)
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I think I have a good recommendation.-casing over in Throop Stratus 36 liters.
I use it in a variety of routes: from desert-daily and daily for calm.
About Ms. opinion network-the other buttcracks would disapprove of the curved inner space (sliced banana) and wonder about the resistance network. I have good experience: I love the ventilation, never encountered any problem on the network or other resistance problem, and my backpack faced as stated with the water of the water required for two days in the Negev or the Judean desert.

I forgot to mention-the backpack weighs approximately 1275, so that your weight will be economy only about 550 to 600 grams.

Since you asked Ben 45 litre backpack and bag above is 36-year-old stated, you can check your equipment goes into it (in-store or you're welcome).


I think Jonathan is right, float can be heavy. Why don't you jump in, choose a lightweight fabric, and sew something that suits you and your needs? (If I did, anyone can).

I have nothing against dates and chocolates, but I would prefer (well) something rich in protein, such as candied Pecans (650 easy 100 g gel and seeds), Hilwa bars etc.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:51:59 AM(UTC)
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The grid is stabilizing, is keeping it slightly back for ventilation underneath by network installations.
If it is, and if you get 2 OSPREY kg of optimism from a manufacturer, a weight of 12 kg is reasonable.
Worth to invest in a silk sheet (silk fabric can be purchased at one of the importers in Nahalat Binyamin) double sheet weighs about 200 g.
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