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יענקל'ה סער  
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:09:18 AM(UTC)
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Two silk sheets. Perhaps equal to sew together the big-liner thing Good reason to visit streets or fabrics shop.

OSPREY seems overwhelming among runaway winner "down". Nahum appeal me forgotten me.

I'm pretty close to 45 liters. 36. little to TMB. When a pod shmcetrfot me two granddaughters is unlikely.

If I am traveling alone in her backpack.

A trip abroad I'm trying mostly to enjoy. Healthy salads, protein, eat low fat, low sugar, low enjoyment, I eat every day.

Milk is great but without the fun chocolate becomes corrupted. You know how it feels at recess at 2500 m row of COTE D'OR?

Half

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#22 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:52:35 AM(UTC)
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#23 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:38:53 AM(UTC)
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This is because the peninsula.

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#24 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:44:19 AM(UTC)
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I would be happy for an update on the preparation of concrete liner.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:36:20 AM(UTC)
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It's easy. Purchase fabric according to the measurements that you get to sew and tell her what you want.

Asked who will be no stitches on the inside where you sleep. She does it for you.

In a single day.

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#26 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 2:52:38 PM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה סער  
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:41:40 PM(UTC)
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Thank you Israel everyone recommend OSPREY. I understand outside Jerusalem can buy it abroad.

I await your call to help forgotten. Meanwhile, some other measure backpacks  I was very impressed

For the best from TSABARIS company. Their model BREEZE sits like a glove. 40 litres + 3.

1.45 kg weight and back. And also good price $ 450. anyone have any experience?

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#28 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:49:48 PM(UTC)
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I have another 44 auspryy, if you want to try and measure it. I haven't used it, so I can't give a recommendation from experience, but I've seen quite a few for bikers with him, and he seems great.
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#29 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:07:01 PM(UTC)
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In my opinion, shell casings can be purchased also Tel Aviv route over in Throop (bograshov Beach), and if I remember correctly, in Petah Tikva (I forgot the name of the store).

BTW, I spoke to at the time with the importer of over in Throop, and he expressed willingness to import non-pods arrive (Hornet, aksos), if ordering 5 shell casings are identical in color. If there are five interested, it might be worthwhile.


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#30 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:45:31 PM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה must specify that I don't understand this discussion, for the following reasons:

1. you mentioned that you are more inclined towards the comfort in the uncomfortable weight scale (k, 2, seating cushion sheets etc.).

2. you said you have no problem with the weight of your gear (even less than you thought out kilos).

3. it's not because olterliit pods. You are looking at backpacks weighing 1.2-1.4 kg (400-600 g less than this).

4. you didn't mention any problems with existing backpack (only the weight).

Therefore, if you want to just buy a new Backpack, so be it. If you are looking to reduce a little, I suggest you take fewer dates or reduced in sheets--it also cost you less.

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#31 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:33:31 PM(UTC)
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Looks to me like the discussion is well-defined for yankale
The stated goal is to lose a pound in the shell to load weight 2 pounds dates and 4 pounds plums

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#32 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:47:08 PM(UTC)
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Yankele actually from.
A few weeks ago, discussing the WHR, someone was supposed to carry with mother-in-law.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:18:25 PM(UTC)
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You like the Palm and the envy eats chocolate. After you sample the COTE D'OR mine

You don't want to go anywhere without pounds of him.  Coconuts bring to the next Forum meeting.

I did homework and here's a bit more accurate weights:

Silk sheet 1-125 g

Silk sheet 2-140 g (including rubber edge stitch).

Silk pillowcase-50 g

Chocolate 125 g (just because your jealous that he clipped in half)

Dates 500 gr

1500 g water

1450 g backpack

Happy pillow 250 g

Clothing until 1750 g (considered together most of the clothes for a walk maybe something so I added a few hundred grams)

The 60 g locker

Rain cover for backpack 70 g

300 g toiletries

Passport/money/ticket approx. 50 g (

Flashlight and batteries 80 g

French Guide 212 g (for me is heavy, but ...)

Flyers (50) 135 grams.

Storm Jacket 600 grams (that's a little hard for me because I bought in Belgium are funny.)

Crocs 400 grams.

7864 total grams.

What would you download? Not the chocolate!!!

Only Harmonix talks without jealousy about chocolate: the current casing is too big, too heavy, and too old. In autumn.

Anyway to purchase a backpack that day before finish. 40 liters (+ 5) TMB me enough and day trips that I

Travel with two granddaughters.

Edited by user Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:03:09 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#34 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:36:32 PM(UTC)
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Passport/money 200 grams? Maybe Passport + safe or normal passport and Bibi Dragon 10 € 100 bills weigh a 30 g also above a storm of outrage that 600 grams. Take a simple poncho 100 grams suffice you for rainy day you might meet.
Then you will cut 600 + grams.
You don't need a pillowcase and pillow contribute happiness to some travel. Another 300 g fell.
To go with two liters of water this is exaggeration. Max l. All this is for. So more pounds.
Without substantial effort we have two pounds without a gram of pleasure.
The leaflets of the Israel spread pretty fast. I think plain naked Crookes (without straps) size 43-44 weighs around 200 grams.
Backpack rain cover 40 litre can't weigh 90 grams. Maximum 50 g.
The dates will reduce a pound and there went another pound of the shlocr can replace the bottle cap space mineral water weighs 20 grams. And another 100 grams are down.
And one can easily take another k with olterliit and Super olterliit backpack
Not bad. Next time.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:02:26 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Amnon Paulose; 587797] 200 Passport/Money Gram? Maybe Passport + safe or heart Dragon
Regular passport, and 10 100 euro bills weigh a 30 g
Also above the storm of outrage that 600 grams. Take a simple poncho 100 grams suffice you for rainy day you might meet.
Then you will cut 600 + grams.
You don't need a pillowcase and pillow contribute happiness to some travel. Another 300 g fell.
To go with two liters of water this is exaggeration. Max l. All this is for. So more pounds.
Without substantial effort we have two pounds without a gram of pleasure.
The leaflets of the Israel spread pretty fast. I think plain naked Crookes (without straps) size 43-44 weighs around 200 grams.
Backpack rain cover 40 litre can't weigh 90 grams. Maximum 50 g.
The dates will reduce a pound and there went another half pound.
You can change shlocr mineral water bottle cap space that weighs 20 grams. And another 100 grams are down.
And one can easily take another k with olterliit and Super olterliit backpack
Not bad. Next time.

Installed weight Passport/money/credit card. Happy pillow goes with me like a shadow. You push it downwards (and olteraliit).

Water can take maybe half liter. A fluid drink and shtavd like a horse you don't date. And because of those reasons.

I can't stand the cold. Is above the storm. Something easier will weigh 300 grams.  For 300 grams did not get a few hundred dollars.

The shlocr is basically two nerlis water bottles and the wrong weight is 60 and 120. Where you have a bottle of 20 grams?

And what is Nick pounds This featherweight. And it is early in the day only. At the end of the day is 6.

Devout nthori olteraliit contacts as Karta.

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#36 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:35:53 PM(UTC)
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The argument is never comfortable with him in 10 kg or 15 kg or 20 kg
The debate is only with those who want to make progress in reducing the weight towards the olterliit.
If you're happy and comfortable with 8-10 kg so it wait and see if it remains comfortable in high orbit passim.
If you don't have any regrets about them 2-3 pounds we're talking about, so the discussion.
As long as you enjoy and suffer
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#37 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 12:15:59 AM(UTC)
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Surprised than tilapia so even if article is irrelevant to you, to be exact, the poncho has a (very) cheap and easy (indeed toward 100 g as Amnon said).
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#38 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 12:20:31 AM(UTC)
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Pretty sure I've seen over in Throop pods also ב"אורחה" Hillel Street in Jerusalem a week ago.
Not familiar with "forgotten", but usually they have higher prices and less lershtot (MTB/Ricochet etc).
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#39 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 8:02:19 AM(UTC)
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Storm Jacket stays at home. Jealousy screams from the posts of Tilapia at I have to settle for less.

50 grams. Now I'm at 7.5 kg with water and dates and flyers.

Amnon reminds me of Prof. David Ginsburg from the Faculty of chemistry. Ginzburg was Urim and Thummim

In the field, not only in Israel. It was also Israel Prize. All academic staff of the Faculty of chemistry

Listen listen to what he has to say much.  The second year I applied organic chemistry course 2 is taught.

I had only a little problem: mandatory professional promote organic chemistry didn't go through. Ginsburg entered the Auditorium.

The Department's largest sat about 100 students. He kept a list from the computer and read the number and names.

And at the end said: after you pass the organic chemistry course learning outcomes. Until then you have no business here.

Amnon settled for throwing me coconuts and safe, Lucky Dragon still.

Edited by user Friday, July 10, 2015 8:14:54 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#40 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 8:25:14 AM(UTC)
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Since you're looking for a backpack for two different missions, should I make רשמ"צ typical track too.
Don't be surprised if you determine you need to select two different solutions:
A. pod with a good set back President of relatively heavy equipment such as water you and your granddaughters (which successor of l?).
B. simple, small backpack, cheap and easy, without a rigid back, trails system.
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