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omri2  
#1 Posted : Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:25:09 PM(UTC)
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Hey,

I plan to follow a path in Israel winter (December-January).

I have a lot of experience exploring the land, but like all good I never bought Israeli professional equipment and weights were Christ.

Now because of a congenital problem I want to switch to light as possible, and would love to help my husband.

The equipment should also be used later for trips abroad and therefore I'm willing to spend a little.

The km -at the moment I think go for Western Mountaineering or Feathered Friends 20F rating.

Is that too extreme? Would it be a problem with (in terms of humidity etc)?

Tent -there are so many types that have no idea how to choose. And I have experience in.

Attracts me very Flat because of the light weight Tarps, orstiliot and opening (I hate to sleep in tents closed).

Say C-Twinn Gossamer or SMD Haven Tarp (or HMG if I decide to invest).

Did Tarp that will protect me from the rain of winter in the North? Or carry something heavy to be safe?

Of course I take this storm I don't plan to stay outside but to cover real.

Thanks for all the help.

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HarmonicWave  
#2 Posted : Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:42:23 PM(UTC)
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-The two companies. I think a country can do with 30f, but the reverse is a real addition and can be useful in cases routes.

Tharp-I've seen and heard about people with Tharp tough routes than that however, should be trained in construction. Windy with rain night hunting can be fun, especially with a km (it is not always possible to predict when the weather will be rainy and to prepare accordingly, not always also have how to prepare).

BTW, take a look also at the tents are canvas tents of zipecs keeping you connected to nature, for better or for worse (some people actually prefer cover closed and hermetically sealed).

Winter will facilitate you in carrying water in the desert and it's a big advantage. However, you will have less daylight and very late nights (think about how you spend your time in the evening).

Have fun.

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#3 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 12:22:57 AM(UTC)
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No need to go overboard with the fear of going-during December-January you probably sleep less than 10 days of rain (which is pessimistic scenario I'd bet less than 7 days).
And in between a lot of Sun and dry locales where a sleeping bag.
(Average days of rain in the mountains of Meron is 10th and it's raining.)
Beyond that,
That is below the tarp or tent will save a lot of moisture accumulated on the sleeping bag (that of the sanctuary gained a little hot air, and then thicken it on the canvas sack).

You can find countless Web sites and blogs that talk about methods for establishing shelter flat rectangular Tharp-but really worth to practice.

And you can look at outdoor gear lab-they did a comprehensive comparison between tarphim in different designs and different manufacturers:
Http://www.outdoorgearla.../Ultralight-Tent-Reviews

Good luck
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 12:47:20 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = Jonathan2; 588684] no need to exaggerate the risk of reverse-if you go during December-January you probably sleep less than 10 days of rain (which is pessimistic scenario I'd bet less than 7 days).

Care-so no. rain days (> 1 mm of rain) annual average on December 9, 2010 in Kfar Blum, 11 mount Canaan. Could not find data for January, but rainy.

This of course also depends on specific year-who went this year was above average in most of the country, in December-January I received more than 10 days of rain.

omri2  
#5 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 9:13:31 AM(UTC)
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Hey, thanks for the tips.

Many rainy days, but when it comes it comes all at once including ghosts. Care also apparently January this year 130 mm in Meron in three days (so according to ynet). So of course I have no intention of being left out in this scene but still. A little stressful.

About the Tharp-start practicing soon once the equipment arrives and starts.
The zipucks are good products but the prices are scary.

Still deciding about the specific model, if any recommendation from personal experience, I'd love to hear.

Thanks again.
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#6 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 8:39:45 PM(UTC)
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My experience writing: essential tent close to disengagement from the area's vulnerability and metabolism. In my experience it has importance. It is not only harsh weather protection (without underestimating the significance). You don't want to sleep between cows graze, you don't want to surprise a flock of wild boars in the middle of the night just because you hatpacht you don't want to see Scorpion rotates half a meter to your bedroom and interface. Tent gives you critical detachment to sleep good at night.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:54:50 PM(UTC)
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Agree with everything except the word "essential".
After all it is all psychological.
Some (like me) that move them outdoors: we're replacing good old forces, and those (including you).
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:27:00 PM(UTC)
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There is also an intermediate solution:

Tharp and mosquito net provided the establishment together or separately – according to necessity.
It is a flexible solution easy, low volume, and even cheaper.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 6:24:19 PM(UTC)
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Come on ever seen a Western in which the heroes are tenting?
Always and without exception they fall asleep by the fire.
I also don't get the tent as a matter critical.
For Israel didn't have a tent and slept.
Force on the ground, canvas bag and sometimes colonized contains, depending on the level.

Edited by user Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:23:28 PM(UTC)  | Reason: ג'ון ווין יורד מהסוס ומקים אוהל???? איפה נשמע דבר שכזה???

omri2  
#10 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 6:35:25 PM(UTC)
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So after a respectable investment (in theory, I haven't bought anything) beyond Maud and Spartan equipment with a partner, I'm currently going on without portfolioequipment 4KG thinking that until recently I'd never leave the House without at least 10 kg.

Bag. I have a huge auspryy that weighs 1.4 KG. Too much in light of the latest hype I decided to check the Exos 58. I measured (thanks to bniv Forum) and a great bag-light and very comfortable.

I wonder whether to buy that for? Is it bold.

According to my calculation easiest days in Northern 3 l water + 1KG + bag + equipment = 9KG ~ at the beginning of the day. Definitely fits.

Difficult days in 6 l water + 4KG + bag + equipment = 15KG ~. Very borderline for the case. But that's just the beginning today and passages.

(I leave in winter and rely on the landfills)

What animals experience

My aim is to go for slightly more durable model.

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#11 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 7:58:22 PM(UTC)
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If you rely on the landfills, water-carrying 6 liters in the wilderness in winter?
3 liters are absolutely sufficient (if you do the landfills in advance properly)
omri2  
#12 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 9:49:14 PM(UTC)
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6-liter as stated this is the upper limit. Must say I haven't designed the atmanot.

I guess it would be 4.5 standard.

3 l-sounds extreme, I don't see how I go with that day's walk without starting to eat zoganim and end with a hangover.

But maybe it's because all my experience is with higher weights

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#13 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 9:56:22 PM(UTC)
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Not set out in the desert without a 5 liter of water on their backs, including in winter. I don't know how much you drink.

On the day but if you stay with a liter of water at the end of the day it is much safer compared to the status of missing liters of water

Before the day ends.  In the North.

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