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Shilo Ben-Chaim  
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2015 9:24:51 PM(UTC)
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Hi guys!
I plan to go to Israel, South trail, roughly from mid-February. I'm trying right now to set up equipment etc, and would love to help.
I guess this work is updated as that honesty will appeal.

A little about me so that you can help me with the February election will be 20 before, tall and thin (1.78 m 60 kg), experienced several days trips, but for this League. Pretty broke (I must work because the army) and thus ready to carry a bit more for a cheaper price.

First question: Kobe is torn between
Marmot trestles 30 (500 NIS) Mhw Pinole 20 (500 NIS) Aleutian TNF s3 (550 NIS) everyone in the store "package", of course I'd love to hear suggestions.

I'm pretty sensitive to cold (enable level almost every year)

In addition, her store has brisgedale mk2 socks trio on 200 and exofficio briefs on 139. Worth? Consumed? Is there anything cheaper? I have no problem to order from the Internet.

Thanks a lot!
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klum  
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2015 10:00:13 PM(UTC)
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Hi Sheila,
People in the Forum will be happy to advise you, but it will be easier for them if you can get some real links that is, go to the manufacturer website and copy from there linking to a product manufacturers have on their website and specification of the product, which you can admire him.
You 60 pounds. No wonder you feel cold. ... I'm just jealous.
Shilo Ben-Chaim  
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2015 11:26:24 PM(UTC)
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Absolutely right. All products from http://www.havila.co.il/shop/site

Marmot-http://marmot.com/products/details/trestles-30

Mountain Hardwear-http://www.mountainhardwear.com/pinole-20-regular-OU8522.html

The North Face-I can't find the product in the manufacturer's site, but this is the link to http://www.havila.co.il/THE store-NORTH FACE-% 2522-S3-ALEUTIAN model/p-453.htm
Jonathan2  
#4 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2015 11:33:28 PM(UTC)
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Is this product which aimed: https://www.thenorthface...leutian-35-2-variationId = dial M5R
I used TNF SAC called orion, which is similar in properties (synthetic insulation, lightweight, temperature range),
And as a man sensitive to the cold he wasn't warm enough in the winter.
I use today in another bag that TNF is km backwards who claims to be successful up to minus 7.

In my opinion, in terms of land, if you feel cold should invest in.
Especially if you buy now, you need synthetic buy another one (because the effectiveness of the insulation decreases fast)
Upside-down lasts and can use it for years (if you take care of him.).
Shilo Ben-Chaim  
#5 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2015 11:41:48 PM(UTC)
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Not that ... It's two degrees and what I brought to minus 2. I'd rather not buy, for geese. But if there is something good and inexpensive I am willing to consider. Until the liberation.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:56:59 AM(UTC)
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On the surface the MH exceed MARMOT is the other 2 c-ל5C. (The reference is to EN comfort) he even easier than him due to weight and fabric stuff David.
As for TNF couldn't find any data on it, and probably not accidental-not the first time that I have come across in their products, the manufacturer are no longer appear to have evidence, even a pair of shoes, the solia nifreda agafa not long after I purchased-called: shoes.
As for geese: while not killing them, but I don't think the children in Southeast Asia, sew your bag, enjoy preferential treatment than geese. Oh, but that's another discussion.

So that you do not install enlightenment must sack, is about the only manufacturer. (Although many manufacturers began to adopt the European standard requires).

About the stockings: equal, affordable relative to the prevailing rules.

In her underwear I can't find no use.

Edited by user Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:21:28 AM(UTC)  | Reason: אני משוחד בנוגע לTNF.פעמיים חטפתי מהם כאפה..אולי אני טועה.

הלך  
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 6:57:18 AM(UTC)
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First mention didn't go along the path, and I don't see myself know much in matters of equipment (including).

I think a good start: you know the personal requirements (sensitivity to cold), so it will be easier for you to customize.

Upside down/synthetic

Unfreezing it may be "double cross looks to offer myself, let you be the judge:
I also spared the geese, often tweaking his plucking alive (I have a problem with, because the bulbs inside them, nshlkot in boiling water).
You might want to consider a reverse second hand kg My logic is straight or crooked, you decide — is double:
A. If the feathers already nmarto will be better used than on shelf lives are on not used.
In General, buying second hand product, which the world.
Therefore, perhaps it is better to use reverse bag has a second, which will lie on that bag, and produced for new synthetic.

Bridget MK2 have socks. I think they're too hot, for less vigorous activity than a long walk.
S.K.  
#8 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:49:17 AM(UTC)
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Go?
Some test hot?
Designed for cold conditions in terms of the mean or thicker?
That has the advantage of thick face lifting shocks especially in carrying heavy weights.

And browse the site it seems they insulated socks.
They might be good to source conditions, especially for those suffering from cold.
But unlike them, I have no experience with them.

As I said, it'd be nice if there were direct. I surf by phone in between holiday preparations ...:)

Edited by user Sunday, September 13, 2015 8:12:38 AM(UTC)  | Reason: היה לי זמן למצוא ולקרוא את מפרט הגרביים

הלך  
#9 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 8:26:34 AM(UTC)
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The socks above heat to me.
I don't know if this is due to the thickness or modern (I don't see anything in Dan fibers).
Remember these our CKS in a forum intended primarily for soldiers.
I prefer other socks in the summer rigadiil, called olteraliit, I think. These socks feature a variable thickness: soft parts are prone to friction, and thinner elsewhere. I prefer them over the MK even in winter.
They also cost double, approximately 120 per couple if I remember correctly.

Happy new year.

S.K.  
#10 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 9:37:28 AM(UTC)
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I'm not sure what the different troops.
Soldiers eventually go?

I accept your opinion that they are too isolated. Just to point out that a lot depends on the nature of the hiker, sensitivity to cold and leg stockings.

I go on long trips with thick socks. My main partner tour type that they killed relatively accepted Alexandra they thicker than a few recommendations.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 9:40:06 AM(UTC)
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Socks is a personal matter, depending on all sorts of variables-type shoe, foot structure, surface structure, the weather, and of course other data it is possible to take them into account only by trial and error.
But as:
Cotton-terrible even percent. tibshot sweat, not a great recipe for trouble.
COOLMAX-I don't know if it's a generic name, but this is a hollow nylon fibers are suitable for it in Israel, ndefot and greenhouses. disadvantages: relatively fast stinking, worn out after a day of walking (it bothers him).
Merino — features similar to COOLMAQX, but do not smell (check!) and durability. concept evokes connotations of wool Brown! They can be padded and strategic places adulteress ... your personal preferences) you can wear them for a few days without washing, and convince yourself that they are clean from recommended brands: SMARTWOOL, and ICEBREAKER.
Web site:
Http://www.sierratradingpost.com/(send via shipping, the shipping of Sierra Leone country liquors).
Not even checked if you import them to the doctor forbade me to get angry.

Shilo Ben-Chaim  
#12 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:41:54 AM(UTC)
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Thanks a lot guys. State I know second hand market in the country, meanwhile, haven't found anything suitable.
I saw this www.alpsmountaineering.c...alps/products/bags/mummy http://shcsh-bags/crescent lake
On sale at $ 44-backcountry (170 shekels) is heavier, but much cheaper. Worth a thought?
ItaiG  
#13 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2015 5:23:09 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = klum; 589331]

Socks is a personal matter, depending on all sorts of variables-type shoe, foot structure, surface structure, the weather, and of course other data it is possible to take them into account only by trial and error.
But as:
Cotton-terrible even percent. tibshot sweat, not a great recipe for trouble.
COOLMAX-I don't know if it's a generic name, but this is a hollow nylon fibers are suitable for it in Israel, ndefot and greenhouses. disadvantages: relatively fast stinking, worn out after a day of walking (it bothers him).
Merino — features similar to COOLMAQX, but do not smell (check!) and durability. concept evokes connotations of wool Brown! They can be padded and strategic places adulteress ... your personal preferences) you can wear them for a few days without washing, and convince yourself that they are clean from recommended brands: SMARTWOOL, and ICEBREAKER.
Web site:
Http://www.sierratradingpost.com/(send via shipping, the shipping of Sierra Leone country liquors).
Not even checked if you import them to the doctor forbade me to get angry.

Smart wall (good) can be found on נורת'פייס 's stores in the country.

Jonathan2  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:38:29 PM(UTC)
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I got two pairs that I love lgrevi bridges, but thicker is only suitable for the harshest winter days,
Therefore I usually travel with a pair of slim type.
If you or friends/family travelling to Europe, selling socks Decathlon of kolmaks floor prices and deposits.
הלך  
#15 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:54:29 AM(UTC)
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I see you haven't answered the question.

I apiinati not the socks designed/suitable for soldiers, so I can only guess:
Characteristics of activity include, for example, might require fault tolerance of tough shoes, cheaper cost required due to loss/theft/amount of socks.

Guess the needs analysis (characteristics and climate, weight, shoes, notes on campgrounds outside the bag, etc.) may enhance the selection.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:26:56 AM(UTC)
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Socks: many praise BRIGEDALE here are not worth the price. Buy socks in WILDCAT's are always and functional operation and I want them for years.

Underwear: EX and EX OFFICIO AS to their body. NATIVE PLANET cheaper and do a great job. Soldiers love it.

Weight (yours ): Add 8-6 kg. Happy holiday.

ItaiG  
#17 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:40:56 AM(UTC)
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Wow I think you yankele first impression that you are not happy with hakosfisho

S.K.  
#18 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:51:49 AM(UTC)
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Don't like the WILDCAT (House brand of "Traveler"). Although they are better cushioned than just cotton socks, but they're not at the level of the leading tours of socks. What does the price up in the years orvenot in outrageous.
However you can find quite a few specials and 1 + 1 even better companies.

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#19 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:35:57 AM(UTC)
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My scale of eczema are warts. If warts a sign that sock is good enough.

I always buy WILDCAT 1 + 1 never ends.

I have bridges that made me warts and lying in the drawer as she doesn't have the septic tank.

About EX EX OFFICIO AS me are unpleasant for the body compared to the other brand I wrote.

S.K.  
#20 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:48:32 PM(UTC)
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BTW I saw today ב"ווק" רמה"ש operation of Aztec socks (Israeli company) 3 pairs of socks at $ 99.

Not tried them familiarity with, but poor company are definitely not fall in quality, and in my opinion a Wildcat cost them.

And if anyone cares more discounts there for example Colombia's pants on 200.

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