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Polymath  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 12:36:19 PM(UTC)
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Hi everyone.

I'm a veteran, a trip to Argentina-Chile-Peru from late November until March, and then another trip in Middle Eastern countries for several months.

In the country I traveled a little Valley and the Golan Heights. Even some in the South, of a day or two. I'm not used to long walks and serious but plan to make trekking a few days, all the area has to offer.

I'm very interested in the topic and read many minimalism realized how important this is to and practical when it comes to the issue of equipment to take. It is important to say that the knowledge that I have right now is, I guess, so I thought you could help me with some issues.

As regards clothing, layered method that makes the most sense? Is a base layer, icroplis and rain/wind enough? I have a icroplis TKA 100 Glacier 1/4 Zip of TNF now, which can be used as a mid layer.

About base layer. Thinking about a simple looking for funkier head band-Israel might some good thermal. Is worth to invest and buy a shirt a t-shirt of Icebreaker? Are they good to use?

I lost relative in the topic. Understand passage past discussions here that soptchl is not recommended because of the weight, but what is the priority? A Marmot Precip-style trench coat will provide enough heat in addition to a funkier head band-Israel and icroplis?

About trousers have great a takedown of Columbia, thought to add a takedown just find somewhere and only come out with both of them. There are certain recommendations on thermal pants have a nice and easy for me to sleep at night?

The subject shoes could talk for hours. I run two or three years, although not long distances, with minimalistic of Saucony shoes. Thought to adopt the same approach and read a lot about Innov-8 Rocklite of 295.

Is it too much to leave them tracks? If so, I think you go for relatively simple shoes, Moab Gore-Tex. Factor low no Although I prefer shoe a lot easier. Anyway it's interesting to hear what you think about the subject.

BTW, I ordered my Shoes that Xero Sandals the roots start to feel awful, heavy and I plan on taking them with me.

A sleeping bag. I am completely at a loss here, and think if it's worth to bring with one country or buy already in Buenos Aires. There are so many designs and types and I don't know why aim so, afraid to rely on the recommendations of the stores in the country.

And last but not least is the case. I plan to leave it to the end, but shopping here, too, it's important for me to be an easycase. Thought on the Osprey and maybe even Exos 58 48 gallons, how? Have new and better models?

Last topic. According to the trip I will be also in Eilat and Berlin and Amsterdam, which means I can buy equipment here and here. Anyone have any recommendations for specific stores to buy the equipment?

Talked about Marmot Precip, Icebreaker, Innov-8, including equipment that I don't know where to buy it in Israel, must be sane prices.

I know I jumped here from topic to topic but I'd be glad to help, thanks!

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waterboy  
#2 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 9:59:45 PM(UTC)
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In my opinion if you are not used to long walks so straight to begin the approach of minimalism (or ultra Lite) too early. Anyway soon the hospital who understand what they're talking about.
Jonathan2  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:43:26 PM(UTC)
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Minimalistic shoes may not give you adequate support when with equipment for a few days. The moab had merrel, keep in mind they're very soft, so when the case is very busy (over 12 Benny Bronstein) you feel the ground.
Don't know what the situation is today in Buenos Aires, but when I went I couldn't find good hiking gear shops,
And therefore (in my opinion) If you cannot buy in Europe/USA, better to buy equipment in the country and to travel with just before to learn how to use it (especially relevant to a tent, cooking equipment, Tharp and maybe shoes).
-Up to some topic where and when.
The relatively low mountains in Patagonia and temperatures in summer doesn't matter.
But if you find yourself at the end of the summer, or in Peru/Bolivia, height can be very cold.
If you are not very sensitive to cold, summer slept most of Patagonia (Shirt + Pants) and synthetic fleece jacket/reverse/300 + easy may be sufficient (assuming you have a km worth).
Micro-Polar Fleece will do only if you really, really resistant to cold or sack your bedroom very hot.
Sleep at altitude, summer trips in Patagonia and other extreme scenarios — it's not enough, and you'll have a better coat and/or additional ikroplis + insulated pants + check your sleep sack warm enough.
Anyhow rain jacket rain pants + better (because there is plenty of rain and no wind) but remember that raincoat, not only giving isolated opacity and spirit.
About this remark because you can buy a jacket + pants cheap Dior rain here in Israel (together approximately 200 will NIS).
Opacity is usually held once or twice, but unless you travel a lot or extreme situations they work Super not less elaborate brands of all kinds (also season within a few seasons.)
Anyway don't think the average necessary and functional to run to buy sophisticated jacket (and expensive) as you mentioned percip
Polymath  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 12:18:29 PM(UTC)
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Exactly the information I needed! Thank you.

So I bought a moab in Eilat on factor 240 NIS, low without Gore-Tex. Good deal, I think, and when I returned to the Center wanted to test the broad dimensions that often is what suits me, and mega sport they simply do not have the same dimensions. In Hesse.

I have a nice base to Joel iisbriiker's mold. The dilemma is whether to take two icroplizim have or buy already above. What is the use of down jacket? He looks significantly heavy microplis just And if relevant make coat?

About rain layer, where you can get in above and get 200 shekels? I also seem to be more likely to buy something cheaper that last season two and roll.

One last thing. I'm currently in Amsterdam and portfolio prices here seem cheap. Osprey exos 58 on this good deal check 800 I have nothing really to compare it to.

Thank you!
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:16:46 PM(UTC)
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You describe a long and complicated trip in terms of countries, different weather, different track conditions.
Different seasons and more.
There's no way you can go with everything you need for the trip that time received 50 kg backpack.
Check what extreme conditions that end up and get ready.
There is one guesthouse bio Trek or long trek for 20 days long with all the supplies on their backs.
This means the weight, size and type of backpack, shoes, socks, and winter rain gear, cooking equipment.
There is no point buying a lightweight equipment not only answers the needs of very cold weather.
For such a long tkoma also have everyday equipment that is heavier in nature.
Amtrak  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:24:20 PM(UTC)
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Just to clarify-down (down). Flip Ultra Lite jacket can be around 200-300 g, but it won't help you in Antarctica. It is good for cold weather. There's some relegated coats heavier, more heat (obviously).
I'm not sure about the settings of micro-fleece, but I bet he still warms less than other same level coat weight. But I could be wrong on this point.
Anyway-take 2 because an item (except socks and underwear). What are the chances you have to wear the same item twice simultaneously? Of course, in terms of taking appropriate layers to the levels in the source.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 9:06:36 PM(UTC)
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You give me now a decade and some back:)

Here's the thing, to forget that they're part of the trekking trip i.e. part-time will travel on the continent rather than slammed.

You need a larger bag that contains more equipment "headings" used case you today also outside, usually before the Trek leaves where you slept the night before all the equipment that you should not then going to trek Trek.

I suggest that you consider the massive case with more space despite the weight of another kilo bag weight gives you much more convenience and flexibility that I think is essential in such a trip.

I've travelled in time six months ago in the southern continent with a 100-70 liters, and it seemed not enough sometimes.

The most important thing is to have fun, and Lucky Louie.

This trip is quite experienced freedom (freedom language:).)

P.s.

I personally was really cold at night, to tackle head on winter equipment (mainly for sleeping)

I saw jealousy was eating equipment European society had at that time.

While walking I had cold, but occasionally there were ghosts really happen think rain jacket/wind, had a raincoat as simply putting over a t-shirt and it worked great. The night is getting cold.

Jonathan2  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 10:44:00 PM(UTC)
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In response to questions and on's comment,
I'm pretty sure reverse jacket will always be hotter than the same weight, fleece
Which is why many travelers like outerwear although sensitivity to weather and ghastly price.
As far as I could judge the touch fabric and reading labels,
And from what I read online browsing
Micro-fleece is just a thin fleece. This is the same material and is a marketing stunt.
Microplis-tka 100 specific-one and is not a particularly hot item of clothing, at least to me.
300 fleece jackets have are items much more insulated from it.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 10:55:03 PM(UTC)
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Make it a whole world of different levels and different degrees of heat.
It reversed doesn't mean much. Chinese also make synthetic made of paper says.
Polymath  
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2015 12:21:46 AM(UTC)
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Many thanks for everyone's responses.
Yes, it's going to be a fun trip:)
And the truth is I don't know so much about what to expect in terms of weather, it's one of the reasons I.

I have to say I don't have a particular emphasis on the nature of the trip. I just know I care for relatively many And I've heard of quite a few days trekking around Argentina-Chile. Really winking at me:)
I understand that I need to take more equipment than equipment for trekking, which is one of my deliberations. How to take everything. And to try to implement the minimalist concept.

Currently, planning is "only" three months in South America, most of them. In Argentina-Chile. If it focused more for you, great.
I'm still trying to formulate a set of clothes for the trip, trekking and tourism and other things you do.

Then icroplis will not be enough. Very understandable. I really don't want to succumb to soptchl (because of the weight) but many argue it must have such a trip. What is your opinion?
Some rain gear with reasonable price applicable for the trip?
Mid layer what I can take? Maybe a layer above the microplis? Weight of course.
Each subject-painting is my main dilemma.
Make it something worth investing? What about an item against the wind?

Apparently jumped a bit head over some things. Maybe borrow a deuter 70L case connector. A little heavy but does the job.

I would like to receive specific recommendations.
Can purchase at Amsterdam:)
Thank you!
imtl  
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2015 6:34:34 AM(UTC)
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Hey

I looked at what you wrote of opening and so on. Some points if I may.

1. you wrote that you plan on Peru (in the preface) as part of your trip. Are you aware that you're flying to the worst period of the year for trekking and even a trip there? The Andes Peruvian citizens blow in the snow and you have no chance to do trekking.

The Amazon has increased amounts of rain this time of year so there would be a nightmare not to hang out.

Another important thing is that this year is the year of El Nino and it's going to be difficult. You should reconsider your plans.

2. follow-up to the first point, in El Ni?o as stated you should weather difficult value than usual in the Andes in Chile. Increased rain and cold.

Even in summer windstorms rainfall and snowfall and strong winds. You have to bring that treks that weather changes in seconds.

Various Andean topography of ridges like the Alps and Himalayas and much less predictable weather per year, and even more so in El Ni?o.

3. from what I understand you plan a trip to backpacker classic Israeli combines all kinds of activities including trekking for several days. And of course weeks or something like that.

Therefore, it seems that olteraliit equipment advice doesn't really help you to design the equipment for your trip. Another thing is that you can also rent equipment rather than for a specific Trek instead of buying in advance

The country or elsewhere. There are plenty of places to rent equipment and Argentina and Chile are Western countries and everything.

4. no equipment with reasonable price. You are looking to eat the cake and leave it. Choosing equipments as well as experience. And so you have So you might as well go with that first protect you as much as possible.

This is the rule that should be on your mind. If the price is worn on the back of higher weight so this is what it should be. Yes, but one thing I can tell you. After a Trek or two in South America you start to figure out what works for you and what doesn't.

Therefore, I say that btiol as you want, maybe you don't need to buy so many things.

Eyal

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ItaiG  
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2015 11:52:04 AM(UTC)
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Eyal you Champ. Wow what a beautiful answer

Especially

"Equipment with reasonable price. You are looking to eat the cake and leave it. Choosing equipments as well as have experience "-going to adopt this tmshpet.

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