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יענקל'ה סער  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:42:57 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = HarmonicWave; 590948]

Like you said, it's not the amount of information available but effective exposure and I think rather targeted channels (which I think is an outstanding tourist office).

The Ministry of tourism has received a list of all the sites on hiking trails in the world including Israel trail should be.

The list appears in the Forum, please contact me. I'm impressed also mmcodim sites they come אי"ה.

And quantity becomes quality. If they reach 2000 visitors to wipe and complain that hatshthiot not good enough and so water project problem

Water points move faster.

[Currently in charge are the landfills everywhere in the Negev that have engulfed the very reasonable cost compared to what it was before and it is not necessary to break atarash how to perform

The landfills independently.  I hope Hart prokit water points to finish within two years.] This is just a note, not a topic for open discussion on it.

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#22 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:50:13 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Eli TheHiker; 590950]

For a well known and famous in the world is there any special branding attracts serious hikers (even before publication, monetary investment in infrastructure). For example: the GR20 for short in Europe, TMB-rotate the highest mountain in Europe and 3 countries on the way to the outskirts of «EBC-the highest mountain in the world.

In my opinion, to serious travellers (not day/weekend travel) will choose the Israel over other recognized paths need to switch it to another person. After reading its description at NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC , he doesn't sound so exciting and unique compared to others that rather than focus on it you can see two months in different climatic environments/landscapes//talk//other ancient castles and the challenge itself posed by the path in the desert for example to emphasize the crest, and others focus on religious character. This may attract hikers but not soft, serious travellers travellers. Together with the lack of investment in infrastructure, and security issues are very difficult to make to attract travelers.

Think about what you are looking for when searching for trails where travel abroad, and what ultimately selected bill one way or another, because there are so many places to choose from and so little time.

At least my usually balance: (in order of importance to the right) Free time possible to reallocate what special trip + for + challenge level, personal + diversification previous tours + logistics + security + partners + personal costs.

I'm not sure I'd choose the Israel trail according to criteria that even assuming that I had available two months because I wasn't convinced of his compare description to come specifically here. From familiarity with, is much more interesting than he is.

The difficulties and problems.  Your conclusion isn't in the right direction "to make to attract serious travelers.

Better branding idea is great. Any ideas?

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#23 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:05:55 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Amnon Paulose; 590956]

IGRA group that threatens from 2006 to build Timna boutique hotel and receive all the permits, encountered objections from head to toe.
One of the objections of the nature preservation society which claims that building the hotel, beyond the impact of "hurt, walking for Israel-the central axis.
But the society for the preservation of nature has always been divided about the treatment to be given to Israel. Since its establishment the concern that Keinan giving preferential treatment to that steal from other paths.
I think and I thought nothing. Even if Israel trail will receive preferential treatment, people do not stop to explore other paths. For day trips on the weekend doesn't need Israel.
I was out in a promotional blitz is backed by impressive graphs on the increase in the volume of travellers. Pushing it to the news, online newspapers, blogs, etc.
What is the problem to display a colored graph indicating an increase of 500% in the number of overseas travellers along the trail. If in 2000 was walking one and currently has 5 so real graph
This is the page of Israel on the society for the protection of nature. Missing page. "Antique" in terms of design. English is too weak.

There is a lot of room for improvement. Nobody really tries to create a buzz that will appeal more to travelers.
I also believe the cumulative effect of having so much. As you see more greater sound vetam and the willingness to support logistics.

The last line is very accurate.

150 fliers were sent to the U.S. for distribution at Harpers Ferry in the ATC agencies. If the answer is good this season sent a lot more next season.

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#24 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 6:57:16 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = go; 590929]

Whether Christine is marketing his book SJ or

For me there is a difference-difference very essential.

But maybe I was na?ve.

Giora,

Look here.

And here.

Me is exciting, even though I don't understand a single word.

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#25 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:43:55 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 591083]

Look here.

And here.

Me is exciting, even though I don't understand a single word.

There is no difference between links

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#26 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 10:00:25 PM(UTC)
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When start appears itovit: Click for more click on chitovit and find your video.

There are a few more on the way.

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#27 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:51:10 AM(UTC)
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In my opinion not come for several reasons:

1. security situation

2. fear of language/cultural barrier.

3. when I search the path I seek overseas experience of nature, I don't care if Jesus walked there before or the predictions that Moses there.

Israel National Trail is not an experience of nature. There are sections where you feel really going deep but nature always are few near uninhabited place and wild nature or virginity. There are several parts in the Negev which has the experience, but no longer than a few hours before returning to the close or see a military base.

Did Bill just because Israel had. It's my house and my country, and I think we should recognize the country before going to graze in the fields.

But I loved him too much, I'm not saying they don't have parts. The overall package is just not something I wouldn't recommend anyone to come to do the same.

But א"כ is a character.

I also don't get why needed to bring tourists from abroad? Why not invest in infrastructure for local aiikrim? Add variants? Fill water points, more signage as well as for the Golan Heights. And I'm sure there's more improvement for those points really going the path.

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#28 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:57:30 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = Arctic; 591087]<p>In my opinion not come for several reasons:</p>
<p>1. security situation</p>
<p>2. fear of language/cultural barrier.</p>
<p>3. when I search the path I seek overseas experience of nature, I don't care if Jesus walked there before or the predictions that Moses there.</p>
<p>Israel National Trail is not an experience of nature. There are sections where you feel really going deep but nature always are few near uninhabited place and wild nature or virginity. There are several parts in the Negev which has the experience, but no longer than a few hours before returning to the close or see a military base.</p>
<p>Did Bill just because Israel had. It's my house and my country, and I think we should recognize the country before going to graze in the fields.</p>
<p>But I loved him too much, I'm not saying they don't have parts. The overall package is just not something I wouldn't recommend anyone to come to do the same.</p>
<p>But א"כ is a character.</p>
<p>I also don't get why needed to bring tourists from abroad? Why not invest in infrastructure for local aiikrim? Add variants? Fill water points, more signage as well as for the Golan Heights. And I'm sure there's more improvement for those points really going the path.</p>
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Because Israel doesn't discourage spending money on. Probably not in euros. The goal is.

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#29 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 12:16:34 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Arctic; 591087]

In my opinion not come for several reasons:

1. security situation

2. fear of language/cultural barrier.

3. when I search the path I seek overseas experience of nature, I don't care if Jesus walked there before or the predictions that Moses there.

Israel National Trail is not an experience of nature. There are sections where you feel really going deep but nature always are few near uninhabited place and wild nature or virginity. There are several parts in the Negev which has the experience, but no longer than a few hours before returning to the close or see a military base.

Did Bill just because Israel had. It's my house and my country, and I think we should recognize the country before going to graze in the fields.

But I loved him too much, I'm not saying they don't have parts. The overall package is just not something I wouldn't recommend anyone to come to do the same.

But א"כ is a character.

I also don't get why needed to bring tourists from abroad? Why not invest in infrastructure for local aiikrim? Add variants? Fill water points, more signage as well as for the Golan Heights. And I'm sure there's more improvement for those points really going the path.

What is this strange entry? .  100% of tourists admiring the Negev. Just yesterday I received a short video about tourists from Hungary and Italy say

It is simple: "we have no such thing, it's something wonderful!" (Too bad the video is of 250 MB or I'd upload it here.)

Language barrier? Where to get it? Everyone speaks English at a level sufficient to communicate with visitors. There are also some Bedouin in the Negev called

With tourists. And the economic theme as well. Tourist broke. $ 25 per pull day. Prophet 2000 tourists to wipe every year and that million to wipe!

Lucky you don't work in the Office.

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#30 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 12:57:11 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 591090]<p>[Quote = Arctic; 591087]</p>
<p>In my opinion not come for several reasons:</p>
<p>1. security situation</p>
<p>2. fear of language/cultural barrier.</p>
<p>3. when I search the path I seek overseas experience of nature, I don't care if Jesus walked there before or the predictions that Moses there.</p>
<p>Israel National Trail is not an experience of nature. There are sections where you feel really going deep but nature always are few near uninhabited place and wild nature or virginity. There are several parts in the Negev which has the experience, but no longer than a few hours before returning to the close or see a military base.</p>
<p>Did Bill just because Israel had. It's my house and my country, and I think we should recognize the country before going to graze in the fields.</p>
<p>But I loved him too much, I'm not saying they don't have parts. The overall package is just not something I wouldn't recommend anyone to come to do the same.</p>
<p>But א"כ is a character.</p>
<p>I also don't get why needed to bring tourists from abroad? Why not invest in infrastructure for local aiikrim? Add variants? Fill water points, more signage as well as for the Golan Heights. And I'm sure there's more improvement for those points really going the path.</p>
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<p>What is this strange entry? <img src="http://www.hike.co.il/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-think.gif" alt="">.  100% of tourists admiring the Negev. Just yesterday I received a short video about tourists from Hungary and Italy say</p>
<p>It is simple: "we have no such thing, it's something wonderful!" (Too bad the video is of 250 MB or I'd upload it here.)</p>
<p>Language barrier? Where to get it? Everyone speaks English at a level sufficient to communicate with visitors. There are also some Bedouin in the Negev called</p>
<p>With tourists. And the economic theme as well. Tourist broke. $ 25 per pull day. Prophet 2000 tourists to wipe every year and that million to wipe!</p>
<p>Lucky you don't work in the Office.</p>
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Why post? Because he expressed opinion otherwise?

Eastern Europeans or Europeans in General did indeed say such things. Maybe.
Americans do not. Asians. South and Central Americans. Australians. Africans.
Let's get into some perspective.
Amnon put it well in another post, Israel offers historical and cultural capital is pure nature trail. And so does power, and Arctic.

2000 European tourists and for bikers, come for a day or two or three to not walk for three weeks. Explain exactly how you got 1 million to wipe out this year.
The money they get to Tel Aviv Hotels at 200 dollars a night. Not in the Negev.
There are also other factors that stood
I'd say better hitters than working in an Office. Arctic could be their territory.

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Bring 2 million European tourists to return and we could open an Embassy in Belarus!

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#32 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 1:23:09 PM(UTC)
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Six years ago there were some stupid people in Israel, an organization that respond to tourists interested in information on

The trail: "Israel? It's only the Israelis. "

It is impossible to anticipate all with Israel would be wise. But everybody knows here.

Those who don't think I should get for tourists from abroad. I think that's utter nonsense.

Maybe close the country to tourism? Who wants to get here just for bikers "serious."

Have health.

I do something else entirely and the Ministry of tourism (2) agree. Some people abroad

(Representatives of the friends of Israel) who think like me. And that's what counts.

And minds of cynics is ... Certainly not in my eyes.

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#33 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 1:37:48 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 591093]<p>Six years ago there were some stupid people in Israel, an organization that respond to tourists interested in information on</p>
<p>The trail: "Israel? It's only the Israelis. "</p>
<p>It is impossible to anticipate all with Israel would be wise. But everybody knows here.</p>
<p>
<p>Those who don't think I should get for tourists from abroad. I think that's utter nonsense.</p>
<p>Maybe close the country to tourism? Who wants to get here just for bikers "serious."</p>
<p>Have health.</p>
<p>I do something else entirely and the Ministry of tourism (2) agree. Some people abroad</p>
<p>(Representatives of the friends of Israel) who think like me. And that's what counts.</p>
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<p>And minds of cynics here or abroad is not considered. Certainly not in my eyes.<img src="http://www.hike.co.il/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-think.gif" alt=""></p>
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Your claim about bringing tourists to Israel is not serious. Bringing tourists to wipe it out. But nothing to do. Take them to a day trip to Masada and them same day trip each other in the ring. Beat the mission should not be serious and not a aiikrim weeks in a row. The first to come and the tourists don't go.

You tell everyone his secret occupation in collaboration with the Ministry of tourism?
At the moment we are aware of only one business. And you have every right to push him and been banned. But at least be true about any motivations. Pure economics.

These different opinions than yours?

As usual you don't give questions. Only statements to Munir maqdah.
Want help in marketing? Then you need to provide help for those who want to help. And for those who want to help you.
You can't dismiss reality and cynicism help calls every time it doesn't work.
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#34 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 1:44:25 PM(UTC)
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If the Ministry of tourism is not pushing Israel's path.

As many said before is a very poor investment for the invest in Israel for the goal is income to the State and businesses here are tourists abroad.

It is better to invest in the sea of Galilee/Tel Aviv///Jordan.

Their motives are ultimately economical, and invest in that it doesn't.

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This season were answered my request and sent enough people already close to 2000 bulletins will be distributed this summer abroad.

It's only 20 February.

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Eyal, I asked you to hand out leaflets in New Zealand, refused.  It's not wanted to help. I went also Sergei leaflets next trip

Its overseas, he wouldn't answer me. That's all you can do to promote Israel trail abroad want honor.

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[Quote = Arctic; 591095]

If the Ministry of tourism is not pushing Israel's path.

As many said before is a very poor investment for the invest in Israel for the goal is income to the State and businesses here are tourists abroad.

It is better to invest in the sea of Galilee/Tel Aviv///Jordan.

Their motives are ultimately economical, and invest in that it doesn't.

like I wrote before you lucky tourist office. Tourist Office think differently (at least until now).

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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 591096]<p>This season were answered my request and sent enough people already close to 2000 bulletins will be distributed this summer abroad.</p>
<p>It's only 20 February.</p>
<p>========================================================</p>
<p>Eyal, I asked you to hand out leaflets in New Zealand, refused.  I went also Sergei leaflets in his next trip abroad,</p>
<p>He didn't answer me. That's all you can do to promote Israel trail abroad want honor.</p>


I still say no. To this bulletin. When asked about what Israel has to see and do and I happily. With your newsletter and the motives and the way I disagree
It's not about you or order here. Israel and the Israel National Trail. With all due respect, you have no ownership of Earth in the tourism world.

And Israel trail are not related to each other. You can deny it all you want.
I wish to come millions and receive proper treatment and infrastructure. But nothing for Israel.

I have no problem to get me but stuff you get on anyone who dares make here and say another opinion. A bit much for my taste. And reservations.

Back to curious,
I will tell everyone and asking about history and ancient culture rather than "one of 20 of the world according to national geograpic".
Meanwhile six people directly in me came to Israel and the Israel National Trail. Without motives.
I don't need not seek credit. And to publish it in the Forum.
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Well done and keep advancing. I have no claims to anyone who doesn't want to part with CNN bulletin housing him. If everyone went

For Israel manages to bring six overseas travelers. I can't connect to the people what they have to say: no need to bring

Foreign travelers to Israel.  Lucky Tourist Office doesn't think so.

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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 591099]<p>Well done and keep advancing. I have no claims to anyone who doesn't want to part with CNN bulletin housing him. If everyone went</p>
<p>For Israel manages to bring six overseas travelers. I can't connect to the people what they have to say: no need to bring</p>
<p>Foreign travelers to Israel.  Lucky Tourist Office doesn't think so.</p>


If in your eyes they trail travelers so we disagree.
Stated purposes as you are setting to bring tourists from economically.
Every way you specified and the target you have set, in the Israel National Trail (INT) and not at all necessary. Those people who come from other motives and for other purposes.
The investment in marketing Bill for Israel.
If the Ministry thinks otherwise. Let's see them perform crazy rates regulation of animal on Earth. Discuss preferences later.

This may be the main argument I hear from people who have returned. The price level in Exchange for very little and so all the time trying to screw them everywhere. Simply red with shame.

Turn the direction and resources might be changing time

It is ok. So don't connect. No disaster
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#40 Posted : Sunday, February 21, 2016 2:32:13 PM(UTC)
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Plain and simple-יענקל'ה and yagil aren't going to get rich selling Red Guide. Would be nice if they see justified yield to exerted, but sales volume in the country it is impossible.
So take that this economic issue. If there was a friendly society that Publisher only one tour guide, she was long closed for lack of profitability.
Not nice to tie the flyers distribution subject to the economic interest in the Red Guide. Give some credit to older people about actions not only nature lover greed.
The United States is not in the world of markets. It invests in infrastructure and market themselves.
Travel hearing has a path with lterim every night, plenty of water and regular supplies, the others want to try to go this path.
The country needs to invest much more in infrastructure of Israel in some northern parts and most southern sections.
Once this is done (and really not large sums, but only goodwill and concern), the trail will market itself. This process is almost inevitable.
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