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klum  
#21 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:37:44 PM(UTC)
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70L, case no judgement he will enter the plane whether you like it or not.
Wrap it in plastic Cong. and tape I never made it as far as I'm concerned, if the bag at all coming back to me, it's kind of a miracle.
Be sure not to put him in a gas canister.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:39:49 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = klum; 603207] 70L file, you have the discretion he enter the plane whether you like it or not.
Wrap it in plastic Cong. and tape I never made it as far as I'm concerned, if the bag at all coming back to me, it's kind of a miracle.
Be sure not to put him in a gas canister.


A gas canister bought there.
You haven't reached your backpack?
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#23 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:41:17 PM(UTC)
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Don't. But one day it will happen.

(The idea that at any given moment wandering the world, airports, millions of bags without owners, makes me anxious).

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#24 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:35:17 PM(UTC)
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Don't. But one day it will happen.

(The idea that at any given moment wandering the world, airports, millions of bags without owners, makes me anxious).

Agree completely.

Is there any point in taking < gloves?

Do you think there's a need for Big Agnes Air core? Would love if you look at the product

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#25 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:49:22 PM(UTC)
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Gloves-Aref? Take.
Whether to purchase an inflatable mattress for a week, and he will lie for three years at home, until you'd get army I give up, and use a sponge mattress watched.

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#26 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:33:25 PM(UTC)
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Morel, I understand that this is your first time in Scandinavia. Briefly about all this thread to say so. Invest in a top value clothing (layers method and priority to quality clothing). Beyond that, if you are planning to stay overnight, so quality tent (preferably for 4 seasons), and high-quality mattress. There are no shortcuts with the changeable weather in the area where you're traveling. Tip: invest in giiters too. Offer to consult with the DNT (Norwegian heiking organization) before traveling. They are very serious and will help you with any planning of routes, equipment and weather. Good luck.
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#27 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:42:23 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = hikert; 603261] Morel, I understand that this is your first time in Scandinavia. Briefly about all this thread to say so. Invest in a top value clothing (layers method and priority to quality clothing). Beyond that, if you are planning to stay overnight, so quality tent (preferably for 4 seasons), and high-quality mattress. There are no shortcuts with the changeable weather in the area where you're traveling. Tip: invest in giiters too. Offer to consult with the DNT (Norwegian heiking organization) before traveling. They are very serious and will help you with any planning of routes, equipment and weather. Good luck.


We DNT have helped a lot.
Thanks for the tips
What is giiters?
The cold is unbearable? There's plenty of rain in July?
We have a great tent
As for some of the cost?
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#28 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:33:59 PM(UTC)
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I don't understand you,

You go trekking in Scandinavia and didn't know the weather where you are visiting or even may rain? It's not serious.

Get a lesson in geography for fourth grade:

You go to 61 North latitude area. It is very conscientious. Scandinavian Peninsula bordering the Gulf stream that brings with it a lot of moisture. The resulting dispersion: a good chance for rain and cold winds. Only if you're lucky, the weather will be. Is there a rule of thumb that I don't remember him, I think, on average about every nice day expected bad weather for three days. It's not the grayness of Tel Aviv, it could mention northern Golan Heights in February. (Hopefully you're getting the message).

Take warm clothing, including a change of clothes. Get socks, thick gloves, jackets. Take housing against rain. Take a warm sleeping bag, mattress. And before all, learn a bit about the area where you plan to roam. If you plan to stay overnight in cabins (recommended for first trip) left home all the niceties of the gdena. A trip like this could be a case of 50 liters. High weights is to Sayeret Matkal, not heiking, especially these days when the technology is very shtchlla.

Consider that the quality and comfort that is staying at the cabin. There waiting for you whatever it takes: burning fireplaces, fully equipped kitchens, hot beds. In between cold, rain, ice, fog, wet shoes, rocks.

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#29 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:48:26 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = 605266 brand ofer;]<p>I don't understand you,</p>
<p>You go trekking in Scandinavia and didn't know the weather where you are visiting or even may rain? It's not serious.</p>
<p>Get a lesson in geography for fourth grade:</p>
<p>You go to 61 North latitude area. It is very conscientious. Scandinavian Peninsula bordering the Gulf stream that brings with it a lot of moisture. The resulting dispersion: a good chance for rain and cold winds. Only if you're lucky, the weather will be. Is there a rule of thumb that I don't remember him, I think, on average about every nice day expected bad weather for three days. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It's not the grayness of Tel Aviv, it could mention northern Golan Heights in February.</span> (Hopefully you're getting the message).</p>
<p>Take warm clothing, including a change of clothes. Get socks, thick gloves, jackets. Take housing against rain. Take a warm sleeping bag, mattress. And before all, learn a bit about the area where you plan to roam. If you plan to stay overnight in cabins (recommended for first trip) left home all the niceties of the gdena. A trip like this could be a case of 50 liters. High weights is to Sayeret Matkal, not heiking, especially these days when the technology is very shtchlla.</p>
<p>Consider that the quality and comfort that is staying at the cabin. There waiting for you whatever it takes: burning fireplaces, fully equipped kitchens, hot beds. In between cold, rain, ice, fog, wet shoes, rocks.</p>


I know air welcome irreversible.
And very cold night about 3-5 degrees in the mountains.
There is a chance of rain all the time and bought the equipment that fits
50 liters? Where the shcsh and the tent come in?
We sleep at the camping area and get showers and electrics.
And thanks for the other comments
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#30 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24:49 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = morel; 605271]



I know air welcome irreversible.
And very cold night about 3-5 degrees in the mountains.
There is a chance of rain all the time and bought the equipment that fits
50 liters? Where the shcsh and the tent come in?
We sleep at the camping area and get showers and electrics.
And thanks for the other comments

The weather is not irreversible but volatile. Is pretty volatile. One day will be sunny and pleasant and the residual ice and winds. Sometimes the fog rain and the winds pull four to five days in a row. More rarely the pleasure lasts a few days. Travelling at high altitudes and in preparations against the elements is significant. If not properly prepared. Note: 1000 meters width line 61 of them approximately 2200 in Alps, approx. 5000 in the Himalayas (the first order of course, nuances).

I advised you to stay overnight in cabins in first trip. This is an adventure in itself, you (I think) enjoy. If you do, there's no reason to carry a tent and mattress, and it will improve your quality of life. If not, indeed, arm it's a little bit a gallon. I'm good with 55 gallons, but it was crowded. Either way, what you learned and used responsibly.

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#31 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:30:33 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = brand ofer; 605273]<p>[Quote = morel; 605271]</p>
<p><br><br>I know air welcome irreversible.<br>And very cold night about 3-5 degrees in the mountains.<br>There is a chance of rain all the time and bought the equipment that fits<br>50 liters? Where the shcsh and the tent come in?<br>We sleep at the camping area and get showers and electrics.<br>And thanks for the other comments</p>
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<p>The weather is not irreversible but volatile. Is pretty volatile. One day will be sunny and pleasant and the residual ice and winds. Sometimes the fog rain and the winds pull four to five days in a row. More rarely the pleasure lasts a few days. Travelling at high altitudes and in preparations against the elements is significant. If not properly prepared. Note: 1000 meters width line 61 of them approximately 2200 in Alps, approx. 5000 in the Himalayas (the first order of course, nuances).</p>
<p>I advised you to stay overnight in cabins in first trip. This is an adventure in itself, you (I think) enjoy. If you do, there's no reason to carry a tent and mattress, and it will improve your quality of life. If not, indeed, arm it's a little bit a gallon. I'm good with 55 gallons, but it was crowded. Either way, what you learned and used responsibly.</p>
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Many thanks helped a lot.

You say to be prepared for any weather at any given moment and catwalk.
How can be? A few degrees at a time
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#32 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:23:57 PM(UTC)
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Agree with Ofer. The first trip I wouldn't sleep in Scandinavia. Until you experience the weather, you'll understand. Invest in lightweight equipment and took small bag (up to 50L, or strong and fit you take 50L, 30L and other). If you change it off of you in the food (not in all places, check with the DNT). Water recharge rivers constantly (six-liter bottle is enough). Also find bridges over rivers (although you are in season). Sometimes fold them if there are floods. The Ofer and I tell you to be ready for any weather, so weather guidance. I mean, can be very cold, wind, rain, snow (where) and two hours later. Anyway, always low temperatures even in summer.
And giiters, is this:
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaiters
Which is a very important item. From experience.
Enjoy.
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#33 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:34:40 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = hikert; 605278] agrees with Ofer. The first trip I wouldn't sleep in Scandinavia. Until you experience the weather, you'll understand. Invest in lightweight equipment and took small bag (up to 50L, or strong and fit you take 50L, 30L and other). If you change it off of you in the food (not in all places, check with the DNT). Water recharge rivers constantly (six-liter bottle is enough). Also find bridges over rivers (although you are in season). Sometimes fold them if there are floods. The Ofer and I tell you to be ready for any weather, so weather guidance. I mean, can be very cold, wind, rain, snow (where) and two hours later. Anyway, always low temperatures even in summer.
And giiters, is this:
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaiters
Which is a very important item. From experience.
Enjoy.


I understood
Many thanks

What is giiters?
Anyway have to carry food (we're religious.)
And unfortunately I already bought shells of 70L each.
Sleep in tents in the camping cabins for closed includes shower and electric outlets. (I know and trust you 100% but agreed that if weather is impossible to have good sleep and sleep in cabins and add money that is)
Roger waters.
What this means bridges over rivers?
Snow (where)? On the Summit of Mount for example?
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:17:36 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = hikert; 605278] agrees with Ofer. The first trip I wouldn't sleep in Scandinavia. Until you experience the weather, you'll understand. Invest in lightweight equipment and took small bag (up to 50L, or strong and fit you take 50L, 30L and other). If you change it off of you in the food (not in all places, check with the DNT). Water recharge rivers constantly (six-liter bottle is enough). Also find bridges over rivers (although you are in season). Sometimes fold them if there are floods. The Ofer and I tell you to be ready for any weather, so weather guidance. I mean, can be very cold, wind, rain, snow (where) and two hours later. Anyway, always low temperatures even in summer.
And giiters, is this:
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaiters
Which is a very important item. From experience.
Enjoy.

Why giiters is needed?
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#35 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 4:49:50 PM(UTC)
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"You mean to be ready for any weather at any given moment and catwalk.
How can be? A few degrees at a time. "

It's not just feeling the cold temperatures, although early July may itchy the zero. Feeling the cold grows very strong winds and high humidity both in probability not received. Therefore it is very important to get ready or you might have hypothermia.

Another tip. When you arrive to the cabin removed over your wet clothes and wet shoes and put them into the dryer, as close as possible to the hot air blower. Especially shoes. This will ensure you a pleasant start walking.

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