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Amtrak  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 11:04:51 PM(UTC)
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I'm asking for a friend, who plans to come to Israel and to do. Is considered to begin in mid-September (it seems pretty ideal for me), but he became interested in launching the first path, and asked me for my opinion. Do you think fit to do this season.

Just to clarify, he certainly knows what he's doing, and above all his vast experience in long trails of all kinds, is also probably will come after he finishes the GDT. Then he would also be in good shape, and looks like a little rain and some cold not disturbed too much. I'd still like some opinions of people who understand in the Israel National Trail (INT) than I do.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:48:09 AM(UTC)
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To begin in November. Take rain cover for backpack and (maybe) it for himself, too.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:56:09 AM(UTC)
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To begin on November 1 is great in my opinion.

From what you describe, and respected is supposed to end in the middle/end of December.

Likely to fall for a few days of rain in the North and Centre.
Not so critical for my taste. Like the Alps, Dolomites/holchim Pyrenees summer not them rain.

What would make him two things:

1. desert nights in winter can be very cold and icetid accordingly. Not sure that strangers talking not calling for heat and he may not be aware of.

2. in the desert must be aware of the danger of flash floods and FLUSH FLUDS check on a daily basis the relevant warnings and forecasts

Besides, I think a great timing.

* Edit-another thing that he needs to consider that the days are short in December and plan your route accordingly. Most of the routes in the world going in the summer when there is 15-14 hours of light. Don't be surprised suddenly, shbarba: 30 pm starts to get dark him.

(But not in any of the above to change my opinion that it is good timing just being aware of the things you mentioned)

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:05:38 AM(UTC)
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He'd have no problem.

In addition to the highlights of the Jubilee is the main drawback of this season are the short days and long nights.

Besides, it's fun to go out in the desert in winter.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:48:46 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for the answer. The advice and tips. And Yes, the desert seems very nice.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:42:50 PM(UTC)
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There is an excellent blog called "marching". Two women who were walking the path in January-March 2009.
More proof that you can go in the winter if you take judgment.
By the way, also in the North could be floods. For example in a closed time like this.
Http://israblog.nana10.c...77&blogcode=10627353
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#7 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:47:38 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = ar1-of; 632369] has a great blog called "marching". Two women who were walking the path in January-March 2009.
More proof that you can go in the winter if you take judgment.
By the way, also in the North could be floods. For example in a closed time like this.
Http://israblog.nana10.co.il/blogread.asp?blog=610577&blogcode=10627353

Definitely a great blog I came across it a few years ago and completely forgot about him.

About "floods" in the North is not quite the same as in the South.

And I think the correct term for this is "Northern streams flow and flood" and certainly not "Flash flood"

It's a powerful water wave appears once and disappears within two to three hours.

In addition, Northern streams are characterized by narrow ravines feet wide that is like your water wave appears.

Why Amud was closed on rainy days is fear of flooding but a large part of the route goes on slippery rocks

Above the Gorge, which is very not safe to leave them as they are.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:05:04 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = iobelsh; 632377]

About "floods" in the North is not quite the same as in the South.

And I think the correct term for this is "Northern streams flow and flood" and certainly not "Flash flood"

It's a powerful water wave appears once and disappears within two to three hours.

In addition, Northern streams are characterized by narrow ravines feet wide that is like your water wave appears.

As a result of your comment, I tried to think of the most dangerous places in time of flood in southern Israel.

To feel the personal danger (perhaps because it is exciting and powerful) get obesity in relation to other dangers in the wilderness, more common and less romantic.

So I tried to restore a problematic places according to the following criteria:

1.-drainage basin Creek to flood during rain in area near/far.

2. the trail runs for a few minutes (crossing River watched point for example is not included).

3. inability to flee to higher ground in seconds (or river rowing due to, for example, don't answer it as I recall).

So (feel free to add):

* Stream oedipoda

* Nahal HAVA (portions)

* A stream

* Lightning Creek + rosefinch

* Diagonal stream? (Small drainage basin)

* About uterine area.

* Parts of river hagshron and Netafim (very rare).

The problem is much more tangible in the Judean desert.

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#9 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:41:37 PM(UTC)
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The floods don't take obesity.
Just the man going in late fall/early winter which is the main danger in the desert at this time of year.

If the question was about a person who intends to start today.
I guess everyone was talking about heat stroke, dehydration (and possibly snakes, Scorpion stings).
The word floods was not mentioned at all.

Did a pretty thorough list (which came to mind as an instinctive sherti these ravines of lightning floods and Meredith).
I would add only that part of the Creek quickly decrease the burning saronim so-called "deployed grottoes".

But there is also a danger of floods (not life threatening at first but may develop it.)
You find yourself disconnected between two rivers that flow in power, unable to move without being able to go back.
And this is true in many more places from the limited train.

(And Yes, you're right that much more tangible danger in Judea desert areas trail does not go through)
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#10 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 2:44:21 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = iobelsh; 632389] you don't get floods obesity.
Just the man going in late fall/early winter which is the main danger in the desert at this time of year.

I don't agree with this argument.

His chance to dry in the Eilat mountains (or haictz by Scorpion, or break a leg instead of a signal), the higher his chance of finding herself in a flood.

To say that the main danger in the desert at this time of year is just not true.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 2:56:56 PM(UTC)
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Dry in the Eilat mountains in late December (assuming he's likely starting on November 1 from the North) it seems to me.

Scorpions and snakes to mind winter NAP during this time of year. Also very little danger.

Break a leg somewhere without cell service is definitely the most reasonable and common danger is common but there is any long route in isolated locations and the description is a person with extensive experience in trekking is probably aware without being told him.

What's left? Flash floods. Quite a unique phenomenon considering that is typical of most deserts in the world are in desert areas.

(And besides we encourage it or discourage it? wink)

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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:03:56 PM(UTC)
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I remember days of December 30 degrees and in Beer-Sheva. And in Eilat 35 +.

Yes, alert to deter not ... And he doesn't understand Hebrew.

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#13 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:08:48 PM(UTC)
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I would also mention the places intended for theft scourge.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:09:08 PM(UTC)
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I think that even though they may not flood the main danger in the desert in Israel trip in winter, they are definitely unusual danger. So we should emphasize to someone coming from the outside to pay attention to weather forecasts and be aware of what's going on around him when he entered the narrow Canyon. The list you made up to be very helpful to highlight those places him anyway.
As iobelsh wrote-there are more hazards are common, but less likely to have to warn him red light junction clamps.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:53:43 PM(UTC)
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Thieves, floods, dehydration, no signal, reds, forget the safe passage (/) in the security fence

Near sansana. Scary to go for crying .

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#16 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 5:02:14 PM(UTC)
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Also I think you should give the obesity floods. Almost zero probability
There are 3 typical dangers especially relevant and November (much less in January-March)

1) hyperthermia
2) dehydration
3) sunburn

Snakes, scorpions, thefts, Chinese missiles, lightning, poisonous plant-eating/drinking contaminated water, breaking a leg, falling off a cliff.
There are troubles that can warn against.

When asked about the desert tracks I always give the same answer:
Take a hat, suntan lotion, sunglasses, tight and enough water and everything will be fine.

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