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neutrino  
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 8, 2013 5:13:49 PM(UTC)
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Hello friends,

I consider myself a pretty experienced traveler. But after this trip I realized I had to learn.

As each family ahronip two weeks before summer vacation we went on vacation. Because a month ago we had a daughter (LEA) couldn't do anything abroad we went to Eilat for the week and at the dead sea (Massada). We are not spoiled and go to ahsnity or set field. We took with us:) hot To help with the kids (I also have to remind Noa she was 7 and Elijah).

In other words when we got on the ahsneit started planning programs for starting and Eilat mountains. I decided to do the tze'elim stream. When we go on vacation, my wife "release me and I do some slolon and at 00:00. This time my plan was to do something not yet traveled. But I had to take my mother-in-law. So my plan was to go up to pursue targeted green, down river, to continue and reach the car. All the track measured approximately 12 miles. The in-ktsathi took 40 minutes. And not my ups. Not to mention the walking bus
Stream reduction really isn't hard. Total said end it for four hours. And was planning to leave on 5 to track 00 back to ahsnia.

In other words, at 5:15 am we walk up targeted:


It was dawn.


South view see news:


And behold!


Here we should mention what I took. Equipment: TIC Ms. Gregory Z30, Platypus locker 3 liter (initially planned to be a 2 liter's locker, but feared the heat and took 3 plus a second before I even threw into the Eden bottle 1.5 teak to Sapphire-thank God!), first aid kit, flashlight extension (I started climbing in the dark), food (dates, ishmishim and energy snack), topographic map 8 (North Sea).

After that we climbed down and went a little

I wanted to catch up instead of on the runway. Open tachk, ...

Some of you probably ask WTF? Map 8- -True! I had to take a map No. 11. Just lost. Some ASA. Without a map I like without eyes. Well, I'm an experienced traveler! After I realized that the map doesn't fit, said and continued on. Remember about the runway and I find in the field. I got to split trails. Red went right. I called my wife although very early (7 am). I told her that I forgot I asked ahsnia map to find us on a map and tell how and what's done this route. Continued green.

In the meantime.




Reached for the Chase


Respiratory vocabulary views


My mother-in-law on a cliff (two lift happy:))




Go to the Chase






After I met red again, I began to panic. I have another red. I called to my wife--she didn't find kimano. What happened is that the map was not updated enough. It's very hard to explain over the phone the characteristics of area geographers and the other end to translate them to height lines on a map. But what was obvious should continue green to black. But one thing bothered me and time. Not much progress in the planned pace and getting hot.

What I didn't take into account-that my mother-in-law was not going so fast. What a Miss!

I called my wife and told her that now we begin to descend to the stream and you may not be cellular. Obviously we had the course in time. I thought of myself, but not how.





Tze'elim stream




Reached a black torf late.


The rocks were so warm that could not be touched. Heat death. I never felt anything like that ever. And in addition the shlocr surprise (who knows)-no water! Thank God I took another bottle of Eden. I expect to be able to bapic the stream move faster and easily.

After trying to lose and some 200 black se, I realized that my mother-in-law cannot cross. There are sections that should move with rope (while I went and got the same places). In shortened returned to early.

Continued on the next green to strip:


And the scorching heat. I keep (don't drink a lot). No signal. 00. Don't know what my wife thinks. Must be very concerned and with three children. Some sailing.

I'm having pthaum in the region probably has a very weak signal. The phone is ringing. OMG! Calling somebody a rescue team. Probably my wife panicked. Ask me:
"Where are you?"
"Going direct."
"How do you know?"
I smiled: "I go down the stream and shmsh on the right," I told him.
"You can say where exactly?"
"About three miles from the finish line, saw the car from the mountain before nightfall)
"How much water do you have?"
"One and a half liter bottle and my half pint to my mother-in-law."

And I added: "in the meantime, a State of emergency. I call on the next SPOT. "

I sent SMS to wife quickly that everything is fine and we have more water.

How live sordot here? Seen me ant the Caracal fast.


The bus was going even harder climb! The thing is that even though you're not having blank height lines actually has to get on the rocks and down, up and down. Thus two miles when torf heat.

The cut eventually reached the car. Thanks for not taking the Bedouins. That started dizziness, headaches and whatnot. Tovshia water. Intentionally left.

How many mistakes I made:
0) took at a rate of hammothi (can't go fast)
1) checked the level of difficulty of the route to settle at height of Grouse had map
2) took another map

If you want to see the whole album (tracks in the Eilat mountains):here
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#2 Posted : Sunday, September 8, 2013 5:45:14 PM(UTC)
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Lucky that you're here to write the story. And my mother-in-law is a problem.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:03:01 PM(UTC)
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Really went cheap this time.
Great pictures.

If I may, a few work for the temptation to keep warm there.
Apparently this is a very special woman.

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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 8, 2013 7:36:25 PM(UTC)
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My friend did almost every mistake possible and really lucky to have recovered.
Design of 12 km in the Judean desert in August with your mother-in-law (and growing fast hot!) and no map. Listen, God was alert.
The rewards.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:41:03 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = nziv] (And no that's hot!)

Right!
I have a friend who is waiting for 20 years to his mother-in-law go

And seriously:
Hope the lesson learned.
The point everyone out safely.
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#6 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 10:08:30 AM(UTC)
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You're right. One of my problems, it's probably an ego. "What will happen? I'm an experienced Traveler! "or" OK ".

My mother-in-law is a very specific type. She swims in a pond 50 minutes every day and goes 10 miles every day. I've been to Merton Tiberias. So my assumption was that we were in. And it really is.

I suppose it could happen to someone else. And thank God I took enough water and went at 5 pm. There are quite a few people who would start at 9 am with 2-3 liters of water. Then it didn't end well.

Last week a friend of mine at work went up Mount garage page River Meron to the page. Got a dog. They started at noon (!!!) and took enough water. LONG STORY SHORT, the dog died. It was a dog he brought to Israel from Russia and loved him very much. Just stupidity. What a pity.

And the lesson learned. I see where I made a mistake and fix mistakes next time. Hope that this case will teach other people-that's why I published the said.

Tiiolim fun and safe!
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#7 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 12:12:28 PM(UTC)
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Greg,

Appreciate the brave and noble decision to share information in the case.
In my opinion, this could save lives.
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#8 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 12:24:05 PM(UTC)
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There is no problem with this. In summer the desert is off-limits, mother-in-law too. Right to tell people out, but the bottom line must be:

Do not travel in the summer in the desert, this is a clear and present danger. Receipt example of an experienced hiker who thought out at 9 am.

And those who just read this thread in another year? Even in summer 2014 will be touring the tze'elim stream and other streams of Judean and Negev.

Some require extracting and will not be able to tell about their experience in any forum.

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#9 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 12:26:37 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = nziv] (And no that's hot!) 
I know more than one hot (not mine) 25 km swallowing 8 hours.
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#10 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 12:57:37 PM(UTC)
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You're right, incla. I have nothing to add.

I take every opportunity I have to trip. Probably travel there this summer really requires more thinking, more tkonanot, more water.

I'm still convinced it's OK to travel in the desert even in summer. Need to prepare properly and be in charge.
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#11 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 2:25:53 PM(UTC)
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And here's the problem, and this one has no superfluous words:

A hiker to experienced problem (i.e. not in the desert in the summer).

Another hiker went into the desert (without my mother-in-law) and prepares himself properly. I.e. taking proper map (best indoor) and takes 6 liters of water a human being (not 3)

Because you never know what happens on the way. You might fall off the Boulder with the mother-in-law where no cellular? That's exactly where everybody is falling.

If the writers can explore the desert in the summer (between 8 am-5 pm) so less experienced travelers who go into the wilderness and think maybe 4 liters

Insufficient and can go up to 9 and turn off reset (just this place has quite a few trails) and already hot rocks and nothing like what I planned.

Every year there are deaths in the desert, and luck is not logged with my mother-in-law to the grim statistics.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:14:00 AM(UTC)
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Still, aspired to share and sincerity.
Not many would admit publicly embarrassing failures only to prevent them from others.

(And what to do about the hot, still evokes a smile)
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:52:31 AM(UTC)
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And good luck to Leah's 100th anniversary
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:24:29 AM(UTC)
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Thanks thanks! After four years you've forgotten what that baby:)
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:35:42 AM(UTC)
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You do have the mother-in-law, even though she is not going fast enough. Leaving and the kids and go out into the field at 11:00. Well done!
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10:43 PM(UTC)
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Not to mention trekking in New Zealand for a month she did years ago. Not long back from trip weeks in the Swiss Alps.

Sometimes I dream about my retirement age, but I have a lot more (I'm 31).
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:52:33 PM(UTC)
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Someone kept you from above. Believe me, it's totally obvious that you got off so cheaply. Knowing myself, I was snatching hyperthermia and dries. Another thing, these areas may be over. Sometimes you get to a dead end no fun on a steep slope, Cliff, degrades. In short, thank God you're alive and well:)
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:04:35 AM(UTC)
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Ofer, I don't cut these areas of those reasons.

Have something to say in Synagogue:)
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#19 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:50:17 AM(UTC)
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Interesting thread, thanks to entertaining and teaching.
Great picture too.
Beyond learning everything and we all sin from time to time for frivolity. Should ease reviews comment on some automated operations — an adequate quantity of water, avoiding as much as possible from the extreme conditions and the track before the start (at the level of browsing before listing the case). Don't rely on childhood memories.

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#20 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2013 1:16:12 PM(UTC)
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Greg,

Many thanks for sharing-shows confidence and maturity, and really very studied.

I'm glad that's over.
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