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יובלש  
#81 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 12:11:52 PM(UTC)
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You're right and wrong.
Go for a walk in the country, there's no need for long. Have for long dock you just ignore it. Access to ה84 members who go day trips or two and Nell in the Israel National Trail (INT) do not need tourists. They have me a day or several days. Long trail is designed for cross-country moves. That's where you're wrong.
In addition, Israel is 20 years old trail. This is not Bill a newborn baby. He simply fails to soar and reasons then this post too.

About for so you don't have to agree with a bill setting goals.

You're right that everyone has their own reasons for walking and hiking in the country distinctive historically. Most people come for the uniqueness and for nature trail.
Hence the Mission of marketing, as you call it should be kind of people.

Don't argue about the numbers of moves in amounts that don't agree on that sequence. What you define Israel trail travelers dance I define as tourists who have no connection to. As stated calls directly to the Mission Trail.

You're also right about the Palm hair, though shtlant today if you really want.

More than I don't understand you.

Apparently you do not understand what you write.

Long path is designed to go far "... ... ... ....

Hope I didn't fine me for it I went for long never intended.



I understand perfectly what I write. You probably need interpretation. So sharpen. Longest trail designed to sequence moves away. Therefore, the designation of Israel as for the long-distance walk is not the coming of tourists into sections. Have to change the shape and purpose of marketing rather than delete. I don't know how else to explain Forms.

I hope not too fine. You're a nice guy. Just want to understand what you want

Long trail is designed for everyone.

You'd think you were AT the PCT and going only as a whole only in sequence.

Assuming you don't want to attract only those who will walk the entire path (they usually broke young money almost won't leave because they slept in tents and eat rice and pasta in two weight throughout the path) and you want to market the כ"בוא experience for even a week/weeks on Israel," it still sounds much better and much more seductive מ"אוהב to travel? You do not have to pay monthly for it? Israel National Trail is not for you! You build yourself a day or two hiking trails in the desert and leave us alone. "

Edited by user Sunday, January 31, 2016 12:19:00 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#82 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 12:17:45 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = iobelsh; 590803] [Quote = imtl; 590801] [Quote = iobelsh; 590799] [Quote = imtl; 590791] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590790] you're right and wrong. Go for a walk in the country, there's no need for long. Have for long dock you just ignore it. Access to ה84 members who go day trips or two and Nell in the Israel National Trail (INT) do not need tourists. They have me a day or several days. long trail is designed for cross-country moves . That's where you're wrong. In addition, Israel is 20 years old trail. This is not Bill a newborn baby. He simply fails to soar and reasons then this post too. About for so you don't have to agree with a bill setting goals. You're right that everyone has their own reasons for walking and hiking in the country distinctive historically. Most people come for the uniqueness and for nature trail. Hence the Mission of marketing, as you call it should be kind of people. Don't argue about the numbers of moves in amounts that don't agree on that sequence. What you define Israel trail travelers dance I define as tourists who have no connection to. As stated calls directly to the Mission Trail. You're also right about the Palm hair, though shtlant today if you really want.

more than I don't understand you when you don't seem to understand what you write. Long path is designed to go far "... ... ... .... Hope I didn't fine me for it I went for long never intended.
I understand perfectly what I write. You probably need interpretation. So sharpen. Longest trail designed to sequence moves away. Therefore, the designation of Israel as for the long-distance walk is not the coming of tourists into sections. Have to change the shape and purpose of marketing rather than delete. I don't know how else to explain Forms. I hope not too fine. You're a nice guy. Just want to understand what you want long trail is designed for everyone. You'd think you were AT the PCT and going just in sequence. Assuming you don't want to attract only those who will walk the entire path (they usually broke young money almost won't leave because they slept in tents and eat rice and pasta in two weight throughout the path) and you want to market the כ"בוא experience for even a week, two weeks to Israel" path great returned. No of course not about eiiti and PCT but notice how these pathways are perceived and how. That's exactly what I mean. Use long paths for walking in and walking along them. Two different experiences rather than competition. To create one that is stupid in your proposal, you nailed it. But don't you think was more attractive people like this come and go title last weekend at the King's Kingdom. So people feel belonging is greater than to do a segment on the Bill. Don't forget that walking in different sections that you native and connected to another level. If not bill you Israel departs section walks through the country There is a long walk in a succession of long trail and walk in sections according to seasons and other things. Two separate things. Don't collide.

They shouldn't build daily trip and left us alone. But to sell them an attractive journey by abilities and desires. For the millionth time. I wrote on purpose and post it publicly. Take it how you want, of course. Hi Yuval. Too bad I don't associate. I didn't want to hurt you and take it to places at all. I have nothing against the for or against you, of course. If you want to compare to clash, but then you just shoot. I love travel stories whether it's time or two years. : And never pretend. I am not such a person. Anyway if you didn't intentionally hurt so I'm sorry I made you suffer. Only good

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#83 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 12:20:31 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = imtl; 590797] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590795]

Eyal,

Rather than argue help to promote New Zealand-Israel. What do you think?



Explain to me why. Seriously

This site, established German birth (about 50) and is helping to promote the Israel trail in Germany.

This site established, today 76 years old. It helps to promote the Israel trail in battle.

English-speaking.

If you don't want to help, you don't need me to explain anything. Want your honor!

imtl  
#84 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 12:42:14 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590805]<p>[Quote = imtl; 590797] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590795]</p>
<p>Eyal,</p>
<p>Rather than argue help to promote New Zealand-Israel. What do you think?<img src="http://www.hike.co.il/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-think.gif" alt=""></p>
<p>
<br><br>Explain to me why. Seriously
</p>
<p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.israel-trail.com/">This site</a>, established German birth (about 50) and is helping to promote the Israel trail in Germany.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://israeltrail.net/">This site</a> established, today 76 years old. It helps to promote the Israel trail in battle.</p>
<p>English-speaking.</p>
<p>
<p>If you don't want to help, you don't need me to explain anything. Want your honor!</p>

Yankele, all well and good but you didn't answer my question.
If a traveler asks me why come to expect Israel will answer him ב"ככה?
Or send it to a German site?
I'm trying to help you need to cooperate.
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#85 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:07:55 PM(UTC)
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You're the only one until the day seeking an explanation and reasons why promoting abroad the Israel trail.

If that's unclear to you, open a separate thread and get an explanation from someone who wants to participate.

Good night.

imtl  
#86 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:12:01 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590811]<p>You're the only one until the day seeking an explanation and reasons why promoting abroad the Israel trail.</p>
<p>If that's unclear to you, open a separate thread and get an explanation from someone who wants to participate.</p>
<p>Good night.</p>


Am I the only one who publicly you mean?

So I understand you do not want. Too bad. I leave the door open.

It's a shame to open a separate thread. This part of the discussion here.
יובלש  
#87 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:31:26 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = imtl; 590806] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590805]

[Quote = imtl; 590797] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590795]

Eyal,

Rather than argue help to promote New Zealand-Israel. What do you think?



Explain to me why. Seriously

This site, established German birth (about 50) and is helping to promote the Israel trail in Germany.

This site established, today 76 years old. It helps to promote the Israel trail in battle.

English-speaking.

If you don't want to help, you don't need me to explain anything. Want your honor!



Yankele, all well and good but you didn't answer my question.
If a traveler asks me why come to expect Israel will answer him ב"ככה?
Or send it to a German site?
I'm trying to help you should cooperate

1. because it was chosen by national geographic as one of 20 of the world's best long and they probably know a bit about the subject.

2. because it's a variety other than long trails in terms of climate zones, vegetation, topography and geology we see. (Think about someone going on monthly alpinot hoiha great view into our hemisphere have best offer but say more of the same)

3. Unlike many other nature paths "net" that Bill with a lot of history and a lot of sites with affinity sites of Jewish and Christian religion.

4. because it's one of the few in the world long to do in November to April when all the rest are blocked and snowy mountains. (At least those in Europe/North America)

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#88 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:38:54 PM(UTC)
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Tributary has more patience than I do. Thank you.

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#89 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:01:17 PM(UTC)
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It seems to me that the discussion here has been lost long ago and moved to attack the Forum members together, it obviously doesn't do anything unless someone is planning to run for politics and want to gain experience.

I shouldn't be thinking how to attract tourists from the sand to get back on track-if a day or week. The numbers of these people neglect in relation to the numbers of Israelis, and the world will be in comparison to Israelis.

The mind should be how to improve the conditions for them in Israel — even those who go in sequence and those who go in for years. The current situation where needed in landfills or gun weight lift is what makes the track to develop and grow into the corresponding dimensions in Europe or America.
For when it happens I'm sure several people dance to come do it all grows well even though those numbers will always be negligible numbers of Israelis.

About marking and arinet of the trail South to sea-blessed initiative and if that audience must first and foremost be Israeli Youth or adults who don't have time to go now for a month and a half in that shorter and southern arinet could bring them out no doubt a whole track is much more atrictivit than the completion of only some-trail hiker got two weeks would go the whole southern orint e.g. than a third of all the major sections for e.g.

Can you say what example GR5 more people the oarint its Alpine Lake Geneva and a lot less going it all from scratch. By the way, many also going the oarint oarint it's only major to Chamonix for a week or so.

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#90 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:07:48 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = iobelsh; 590813]
[Quote = imtl; 590806] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590805]
[Quote = imtl; 590797] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590795]
Eyal,
Rather than argue help to promote New Zealand-Israel. What do you think? [Img = http://www.hike.co.il/sc...ons/img/smiley-think.gif] [/Img]


Explain to me why. Seriously


[Url = http://www.israel-trail.com/] this site [/url], German by birth (about 50) and is helping to promote the Israel trail in Germany.
[Url = http://israeltrail.net/] this site [/url] Kim, today 76 years old. It helps to promote the Israel trail in battle.
English-speaking.

If you don't want to help, you don't need me to explain anything. Want your honor!


Yankele, all well and good but you didn't answer my question.
If a traveler asks me why come to expect Israel will answer him ב"ככה?
Or send it to a German site?
I'm trying to help you should cooperate
1. because it was chosen by national geographic as one of 20 of the world's best long and they probably know a bit about the subject.
2. because it's a variety other than long trails in terms of climate zones, vegetation, topography and geology we see. (Think about someone going on monthly alpinot hoiha great view into our hemisphere have best offer but say more of the same)
3. Unlike many other nature paths "net" that Bill with a lot of history and a lot of sites with affinity sites of Jewish and Christian religion.
4. because it's one of the few in the world long to do in November to April when all the rest are blocked and snowy mountains. (At least those in Europe/North America)


Thank you Yuval. Fun also disputes what you wrote these points, I appreciate the response. Too bad in the Israel National Trail (INT) is not really what you wrote here is missing. As for the number one spot so I guess my luggage.

Edited by user Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:37:49 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

יובלש  
#91 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 9:00:26 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = imtl; 590816] [Quote = iobelsh; 590813]
[Quote = imtl; 590806] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590805]
[Quote = imtl; 590797] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590795]
Eyal,
Rather than argue help to promote New Zealand-Israel. What do you think?UserPostedImage



Explain to me why. Seriously


This site, established German birth (about 50) and is helping to promote the Israel trail in Germany.
This site established, today 76 years old. It helps to promote the Israel trail in battle.
English-speaking.

If you don't want to help, you don't need me to explain anything. Want your honor!


Yankele, all well and good but you didn't answer my question.
If a traveler asks me why come to expect Israel will answer him ב"ככה?
Or send it to a German site?
I'm trying to help you should cooperate
1. because it was chosen by national geographic as one of 20 of the world's best long and they probably know a bit about the subject.
2. because it's a variety other than long trails in terms of climate zones, vegetation, topography and geology we see. (Think about someone going on monthly alpinot hoiha great view into our hemisphere have best offer but say more of the same)
3. Unlike many other nature paths "net" that Bill with a lot of history and a lot of sites with affinity sites of Jewish and Christian religion.
4. because it's one of the few in the world long to do in November to April when all the rest are blocked and snowy mountains. (At least those in Europe/North America)


Thank you Yuval. Fun also disputes what you wrote these points, I appreciate the response. Too bad in the Israel National Trail (INT) is not really what you wrote here is missing. As for the number one spot so I guess my luggage.

Unable to share all that I wrote those facts.

The diversity, uniqueness and the unique period as well as selecting and deselecting it by national geographic.

I understand that you think could choose better route and fascinating. So what? No reason to recommend?

If you talk with experienced French discourage they must tell you could choose a better route to tiambi, the Italian aiikrim be reservations about the route of the Alta via and Americans on the PCT route. And yet those trails.

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#92 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 9:07:42 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = gaggag; 590815]

The mind should be how to improve the conditions for them in Israel — even those who go in sequence and those who go in for years. The current situation where needed in landfills or gun weight lift is what makes the track to develop and grow into the corresponding dimensions in Europe or America.

For when it happens I'm sure several people dance to come do it all grows well even though those numbers will always be negligible numbers of Israelis.

Agree very much and why I unfortunately still have the questionnaires of overseas distribution yankele that despite the publication in national geographic, for in many places simply lacks appropriate measures for tourists (especially European) that used to go from cabin to cabin and the amount of dirt and wet wipes just to embarrass him. Until the situation will not improve significantly (education and punishment deters) for my taste because advertising budget won't help because like I said, serious travellers that I could contact, not stupid and find real information (not polished and shining of the advertisement) on the network.

The conclusion should at this stage at least to refer to domestic tourism and to develop a network of trails especially for them and at the same time invest in education because when you want, it's definitely possible and best example was on the subject of water-saving publication that got very mad.

imtl  
#93 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 9:13:49 AM(UTC)
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<p>[Quote = iobelsh; 590822]</p>
<p>[Quote = imtl; 590816] [Quote = iobelsh; 590813]<br>[Quote = imtl; 590806] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590805]<br>[Quote = imtl; 590797] [Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 590795]<br>Eyal,<br>Rather than argue help to promote New Zealand-Israel. What do you think?<img class="UserPostedImage" style="max-width: 500px; max-height: 500px;" src="//www.hike.co.il/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-think.gif" alt="UserPostedImage"><br>
<br><br>Explain to me why. Seriously
<br><br><a title="http://www.israel-trail.com/" href="http://www.israel-trail.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">This site</a>, established German birth (about 50) and is helping to promote the Israel trail in Germany.<br><a title="http://israeltrail.net/" href="http://israeltrail.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">This site</a> established, today 76 years old. It helps to promote the Israel trail in battle.<br>English-speaking.<br><br>If you don't want to help, you don't need me to explain anything. Want your honor!<br><br><br>Yankele, all well and good but you didn't answer my question.<br>If a traveler asks me why come to expect Israel will answer him ב"ככה?<br>Or send it to a German site?<br>I'm trying to help you should cooperate <br>1. because it was chosen by national geographic as one of 20 of the world's best long and they probably know a bit about the subject.<br>2. because it's a variety other than long trails in terms of climate zones, vegetation, topography and geology we see. (Think about someone going on monthly alpinot hoiha great view into our hemisphere have best offer but say more of the same)<br>3. Unlike many other nature paths "net" that Bill with a lot of history and a lot of sites with affinity sites of Jewish and Christian religion.<br>4. because it's one of the few in the world long to do in November to April when all the rest are blocked and snowy mountains. (At least those in Europe/North America)<br><br><br>Thank you Yuval. Fun also disputes what you wrote these points, I appreciate the response. Too bad in the Israel National Trail (INT) is not really what you wrote here is missing. As for the number one spot so I guess my luggage. </p>
<p>Unable to share all that I wrote those facts.</p>
<p>The diversity, uniqueness and the unique period as well as selecting and deselecting it by national geographic.</p>
<p>I understand that you think could choose better route and fascinating. So what? No reason to recommend?</p>
<p>If you talk with experienced French discourage they must tell you could choose a better route to tiambi, the Italian aiikrim be reservations about the route of the Alta via and Americans on the PCT route. And yet those trails.</p>
<p></p>Facts ....
1. is not chosen by national geographic, but this one made the list that looks like something a customer videos on YouTube or Wikipedia. Trying to build a list written color. "Selected". A year after that 20 other trails "selected". What happened? Israel National Trail out of 20 rating? It's like universities?<p>If you look at the list understand that there is no connection to anything related to long routes and their quality or nature. There is no logic in the choice between the tracks. You put the siditi and hiidock together with pilgrims? And a letter from Shackleton's journey add in Antarctica? I wish you also specify when crossing the sea on the Moon and a crater on Mars, the Las. Just note that you need to do the landfills.
2. I have no idea what went up today, but it's just not true what you wrote. It is not the diversity of Israel but you completely wrong statement.
3. agree and therefore I proposed to target and market it for another walk. So what exactly do you keep arguing? For discussion
4. before each individual has going between December and March and late November to March. So what you wrote about Israel the wrong path Second delete here half a generation no less "attractive". Plus a few other places in the northern hemisphere. Don't let that one statement too arrogant and worse you loot no less ancient cultures and only self less importance than the religions you mentioned monotaistot brought only light and peace to other nations of the world need to go their way on trails. So ...

To recommend? About the Israel trail? Definitely. The way you and others pointing to it? Not at all. The goal is not to get in front of as many tourists who pour money into Israel. The aim of the walk in the Israel National Trail (INT) or any long path is a completely different sequence. But I do know you what you care about is to get as much as possible and pour as much interesting and not the essence. The msachra- I would love an explanation and correction.
According to your logic allowed the French to be with reservations and Nell also Italians and Americans even merciful. But I'm not allowed. Rules.

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gaggag  
#94 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 10:55:14 AM(UTC)
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Another attempt to divert the discussion to place upside down-why I throw an idea in the air about how to improve the conditions for: I think there are enough people who think their expensive trail hearts, and are ready for pre. Since institutional bodies in Israel suffer from red tape and they seem to be those that promote the path I set up voluntary body the PCTA-style link .  The nonprofit organization and will be voluntary at first (can be based at this point even Forum members). I'm sure anyone who goes up for happy to give a nominal fee for the joint activity of the Organization, in a more advanced stage should produce goods merchant-style did Israel trail and all I've gotten is weezy t-shirt. The organization is one that would be responsible for improving water access, cleanliness etc. and manage the interface with the authorities to achieve his goals.

Want to March down the path forward This way-learn from places already got it ....

imtl  
#95 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 11:08:47 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = gaggag; 590825]

Another attempt to divert the discussion to place upside down-why I throw an idea in the air about how to improve the conditions for: I think there are enough people who think their expensive trail hearts, and are ready for pre. Since institutional bodies in Israel suffer from red tape and they seem to be those that promote the path I set up voluntary body the PCTA-style link .  The nonprofit organization and will be voluntary at first (can be based at this point even Forum members). I'm sure anyone who goes up for happy to give a nominal fee for the joint activity of the Organization, in a more advanced stage should produce goods merchant-style did Israel trail and all I've gotten is weezy t-shirt. The organization is one that would be responsible for improving water access, cleanliness etc. and manage the interface with the authorities to achieve his goals.

Want to March down the path forward This way-learn from places already got it ....

Loyalist organization Israel trail. INTA. My love and support. Also such an organization will have more weight than the authorities. Well done on the idea. When this area would love to donate that amount.

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#96 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 11:29:51 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = gaggag; 590825]

I set up a voluntary body the PCTA-style link .  The nonprofit organization and will be voluntary.

Want to March down the path forward This way-learn from places already got it ....

If you as a volunteer drops tomorrow and new territory in the Israel National Trail (INT) marks oneself-is expected to go to jail.
It looks like you're not really giving any weight to the bureaucratic thicket in msandl country all shaviv of free enterprise.

USA-the nonprofit body financed comprehensive federal budget. Things there. A volunteer receives a name authority performing.

Want to know how frustrating? Give you an example.
Suppose you especially ambiziosi project approaches the plan Viewer Rhett and excavation of Wells all weak points of southern Israel.
Full funding to dig wells to obtain overseas Zionist philanthropist and all you ask for is just to obtain the program.

Now save you the Rhett but full can summarize it: he hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Why That need to obtain certificates from Israel land administration. Need to get the approval of Bedouin clans. Need to get the approval from the Ministry of health and the water authority.

Need to get the approval of the Office for the protection of nature and the environment. Need to get the approval from the Ministry. Need to get the approval from the Ministry of Defense.
Need to get the approval of the Department of Justice for litigation against John Green organizations overturned. Need to establish a stronger body and monitor over time and budget.

Need to obtain the consent of the National Committee for planning and construction, the District Committee for planning and construction and the local Committee for planning and construction in the Negev and hope there are no objections to credentials.
And after all that, one might find a link between your benefactor and senior political function and question the pure intention behind the initiative.

It's just in a nutshell.

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#97 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 11:51:27 AM(UTC)
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Metake flyers. If you wait until all conditions are ripe you don't never

Amnon describe the situation in the country accurately. In recent years there were three initiatives (I know) to establish

For Association. Anyone who wants to start (including Moi five years) between the chance

Things move by using Marc, low.

gaggag  
#98 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 11:58:10 AM(UTC)
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I understand and I have the experience and the efforts already made. Though I think I should set up such a body and no doubt find enough people for its activity, even if it contains only MOP-up days for points that acceptable schools. Want to say there are plenty of people with plenty of face time and ample space you want and can contribute, even then about the landfills of water or anything that will promote the trail.

I guess I forgot what country (politically bureaucratic).

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#99 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 12:02:23 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Amnon Paulose; 590827]<p>[Quote = gaggag; 590825]</p>
<p>I set up a voluntary body the PCTA-style <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pcta.org/">link</a> .  The nonprofit organization and will be voluntary.</p>
<p>Want to March down the path forward This way-learn from places already got it ....</p>
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<p>If you as a volunteer drops tomorrow and new territory in the Israel National Trail (INT) marks oneself-is expected to go to jail.<br>It looks like you're not really giving any weight to the bureaucratic thicket in msandl country all shaviv of free enterprise.</p>
<p>USA-the nonprofit body financed comprehensive federal budget. Things there. A volunteer receives a name authority performing.</p>
<p>Want to know how frustrating? Give you an example.<br>Suppose you especially ambiziosi project approaches the plan Viewer Rhett and excavation of Wells all weak points of southern Israel.<br>Full funding to dig wells to obtain overseas Zionist philanthropist and all you ask for is just to obtain the program.</p>
<p>Now save you the Rhett but full can summarize it: he hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe</p>
<p>Why That need to obtain certificates from Israel land administration. Need to get the approval of Bedouin clans. That should get the approval from the Ministry of health and the water authority.</p>
<p>That should get the approval of the Office for the protection of nature and the environment. That should get the approval from the Ministry. That should get the approval from the Ministry of Defense.<br>That the Ministry of Justice should give legal coverage against c. Green disposal organizations That should build stronger body and monitor over time and budget.<br>That would be someone who finds link between your benefactor and senior political function and question the pure intention behind the initiative.</p>
<p>It's just in a nutshell.</p>


Whether it's the only country with grandfather. Is determination and perseverance cannot change and improve, at least in this case?
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#100 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 12:53:59 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = gaggag; 590831]

I guess I forgot what country (politically bureaucratic).

I don't think I forgot. I think I just haven't encountered it personally. Between two-year and average waiting time for approval to move a tree on Rothschild Boulevard.
Wood? Not forbid construction certificates of underground or something complex engineering. A fucking tree, dozens like him breaking each winter storm.
And I'm talking about moving because amputation involves the criminal justice charges according to law for the protection of trees.

You want to shorten the proceedings? No problem. There are so-called "Bahr" running for you (fat fee) between the various offices and sign who should sign. The machr shortens the time an admirable way, and within six months you get certificates. But then a new problem. A neighbor turns against love and wont see it in the morning when they take their coffee on the terrace. Next door serves on the Mayor's move. What's more democratic than everyone can complain for damages he caused him This is the essence of democracy. The resistance is discussed in the appropriate Committee at City Hall. The Committee meets once every few months, and in the 3rd Assembly falls after decision carefully during the arguments on both sides. The Commission continuously benefit the Yes and that means you can't move and you need to change the program accordingly. It took five years of debate and numerous objections to the original plan and improvement plan is expected to take a few more years. Choice approaches to the problem and trying to convince him to give up resistance Swearengen traffics to move. (Who happens to be a lawyer specializing in real) places you conditions he said "you can't refuse them." At this stage you really can't resist anything and payment of $ 150,000 for removing objections sound reasonable. So you pay a winning smile and turns to the urban Committee. You deleted very quickly. It turns out that in the meantime filed since (because) the objection that the garbage room in the construction program approved, faces him. I want to stop the story (true) because what writer to draw situation.

Now about the initiative for voluntary cleaning of the area. A welcome initiative, but it undoubtedly treating the symptoms rather than cure the disease.

As Eli said. to prevent contamination of the nature required education and an array of cleansers. In shoozeria there is no voluntary system for cleaning and walking paths.

The lack of education for maintaining clean nature is particularly acute for us. Anyone who travels "trails" that there is no problem to keep toilet paper or Bamba bags and plastic bottles.

The mantra is: someone else to clean. Why should I worry about cleanliness if others don't care?

Well, come on. I cried enough.

Apparently the change begins with the magistrate or with what comes after Gog and Magog.

Until then we need to really astonished how it even has nature trails are marked in Israel

Sometimes private initiatives still koramot skin and tendons.

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