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הלך  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 2:01:02 PM(UTC)
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The thread is you-edit.

1. the project on one leg.

The main idea-the desert scene the best it can to offer considering sari saves the nature and the environment, in the hope that this will attract the foreign and local Kings, will contribute to promoting the culture of walking, and consequently the retention factors drive nature preserve, and possibly fight-bombers for years along the route.

2. the main route, different variants

The proposed route runs entirely on existing trails are marked, and he commands designated campgrounds. To route different variants for content and procedural considerations (e.g. the purchase rate, etc). Part of the track runs on Israel, especially when Israel trail through the matgaml route possible (on our behalf), or when a transition is necessary (e.g. due to the fire zone constraints).

A. Eilat mountains and steppe .

Red Sea (it is recommended to start the crossing to Egypt), slates, little river (it is recommended to add a triangle went), mountain stream, eye + yehoash Netafim, mountain, river waterfalls (seven), Hamon, ibex mountain, River, ravine rodad. Mount + Black Canyon, Amir, Amram, River, stream, up knee (away two possible variants, one descends to prevent + up melody and the other encrypts knee mountain), beer, music, tseela, yotvata (recommended cheek sortie), shaharut (blue path), the sand covering and then on Israel until the seat.

Solomon quickly look North

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One of seven river falls

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Rodad

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Quick salmon

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A look at preventing

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B. wipe


A Sapphire on Israel until nozzle or cockscomb Perce, Ardon, cone, Har Ardon, computer, eye + Nahal HAVA (possible variant visible Tower), ein shaviv (several variants are possible around Springs + eye + heel point antiques dbshon level lab, bundle, erect – steep) trail to Israel up court, River bastards or watched, watched, Tamar.

Nahal Ardon Ardon mountain and tooled

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Quick view Ardon

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Glottal Northern farm.

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Ms. bundle

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Steep Creek

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C. Judean


Stream bottom top prize + stream complete top (variants are possible: complete or river bottom/up azgad), River, stream, Creek bays will shine, rum, dead sea, ein bokek, a leaf falls to mount axis Elazar, Masada, and several variants are possible to seek to end at Ein Gedi or Arad.

Above the waterfall back award

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Cascade complete

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Draft stream

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Shine River

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On fast Elazar

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The haunted Creek

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Is busy blessing Naama

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3. for maps

A. map by the help of Noam (thanks, Grace!):

Https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_DXc1YJDxkHUGFHWkM1eDZXWnc/view

B. map by the help of tilapia (Tilapia, thanks!):

Http://israelhiking.osm.org.il/#/10/29.6803/34.9297?s=i8PP7gOnTl

Comments about the map:

1) above marked on maps map of active suffers from several problems: it does not allow free, check mark over what she identifies as a barrier. Thus, for example, it does not allow in no name Creek is the Netafim, proposed route. Sometimes the map gone wild and creates mini-cycles in which you cannot control. In addition, it is difficult to highlight her variants. In view of the aforesaid, the route marked on maps is not completely accurate, and immersion variants.

The above route) does not reflect exactly the same path I went now, in some cases (e.g., due to anticipated closure, went down to the lower River bastards way watching).

3) three charts above indicate the route:

A), Taba border crossing fingers (fingers nozzle/mount Crest route saronim heading in the Israel National Trail (INT) National Trail).
In a nozzle Crest) to the West.
C) from the junction West of Masada.

4. different finish options

There are many to Massada, Ein Gedi direction or Arad. Almost all recently examined in the field:

1) Arad-Antelope Creek Road (red path).
2) towards Arad on the southern bank of ze'elim (Berry, siren).
3) toward Arad on the Northern Bank of ze'elim, enclosing the West.
4) towards Arad through targeted, oleander leaf, Tiger eye, Naama, Horn (The variation that I went).
5) Ein Gedi through Berry, oleander, friend guard beds.
6) towards Ein Gedi through Berry eye Tiger Na'ama chasing friend guard beds.
7) towards Ein Gedi and targeted way up North.
8) towards Arad or Ein Gedi through targeted and Tiger eye (without entering the tze'elim channel East of Tiger eye).

Five variants in that bracket bib-lab-College--tall, steep

Many options. Allow the square to the North and to include both the tread and (erect a dangerous precipice in rainy days, and things are specified explicitly if ever the route would be announced and will be marked). If you include the Ein ovdat-ein avdat Maarif, one-way constraint exists (movement heading from North to South) and hours constraints of the National Park. The South can constraint using button-shaped route 8 as indicated on the map (this is the explanation for the loop, who wondered).


As mentioned the route moves only on existing trails and marked, to designated campgrounds. Also administrative considerations were taken into account. Administrative transactions have not been specified, of course there were.

6. actions to try to jumpstart the process from above:

In a letter sent to various ministries, municipalities and other bodies, okmity, an attempt was made to them to promote anian. A copy of the letter is below.

7. actions in an attempt to promote the "bottom"-by sharing and creating demand.

1) hopefully aachtira without compromise to the quality is possible-given the nature preservation concerns expressed by anyone who learns about love, which may be found.

2) free ivengsh route for demand from the fraternity and nature lovers, and hopefully no one will use it.

3) the route as route (ROUTE) rather than a for (TRAIL) to maintain independence. For the same reason the track won't be offered a route to Israel.

4) Notwithstanding the foregoing, we will be happy to cooperate with any authority/Ministry, another factor that put the principle of striving for quality and preserving the nature above all other considerations.

5) will work in good faith to track link Forum (coming soon) with the relevant information in Hebrew and English.

6) in addition, we intend to get a link to this page also multilanguage sites and international fora and, as
Http://www.trailforums.com/
Http://www.trailjournals.com/
Http://www.traildino.com/
Http://besthike.com/

We believe this is the proper way to offer shoppers a rewarding hike, independent and free from extraneous considerations.

8. obtain food and water along the route

Below is a collection of food purchase points along the route

A. Eilat/Eilot North-deviation of approximately 3 km from the edge of Wadi Hessa and 4 km back to the garage for the night Hamon (Incidentally, the cozy Executive as it includes single, crossing the country Netherlands Park and lizards).

B. Be'er ora-also-significant aberration supermarket.

C. Agmon axis (in a Variant up, voters can go directly to a icetido in ilachn bar yotvata).

D yotvata-(the soprmact open from 0500 to 2300 in winter) on the route.

Supporting freedom.

F. Neot Smadar.

G. collects.

H. Paran very significant deviation-I think not.

T. cliffs-deviation of about 5 km, and it is very pleasant on stream (ashosh). In the bluffs convenience store, open 24/7. (Incidentally, from 1 km ashosh on the trail to the East, not natual and allowed to stay there (I've done it before).

J. Horn.

She. Sapphire.

12. Parking garage in Wells

(Note-we prefers to Mitzpeh Ramon, obviously through Shen Ramon).

13. A sermon.

14. Dimona-long anomaly which is very rewarding trip (a real stream + solid), back in the cab.

15. The comfort store-open 24/7. You can also buy sandwiches. It is possible to get a bus or a ride to Jerusalem).

16. Neve Zohar

17. Ein bokek

18. Massada

19. Ein Gedi or Arad can end points.

9. additional points

Important note-this is a winter trail. The projection for the amount of water it has to carry, as well as on the chances of finding water in the backs (blessing).

A. all points above.

2 washers and springs.

C. bounces (e.g. garage Jehoram).

D. Oron (if not lack of money, rely on ein irkeam).

The animal.

And there's nothing to build, but in the sand during the winter, the chances to find schools in the camps high night.

10. animals

Goat-antelope, deer, foxes, rock face, with their edible fruits (previous constitutional dye too.)

Eagles, buzzards, falcons, Ravens, tristermity, storks, cranes, and a variety of song birds (earlier also in Mercy).

Lizards, lizards (earlier also zmaan walk a thin).

11. Flora

Acacia, tamarix, Oh Perth, Palm, Rotem, rchptan, circle, Anabasis, salty, mineral, germinate, oboon, oricandia,, androcymbium, (and even a bow-wakes-stream channel bundle flower) etc.

12. historical sites along the route:

Prevent, MOA, saronim hand, by computer, worked on the zafir on glow, a con man camps and the surrounding areas. To keep Gedi also notes Nahal mishmar and Member, Ein Gedi, and chlkolici Temple.

13. thanks to:

To my good friends who accompanied the project more as an idea, and devoted time to issues like the beauty of the route, his judgment and of the ilotio, Ofer, SK, and Noam on maps, and respond.

14. Appendix-copy of letter sent to ministries, authorities and other bodies

A. vision

Transforming Israel into a destination for lovers of the walk from abroad and encouraging the local culture.

B. background

1) culture to walk outdoors (Hiking), developed in Europe and North America. During the summer numerous hiking enthusiasts take the klotiham, walking along thousands of miles of well-marked trails. The rest of the year the weather prevents them from realizing the hobby more, at a time when they enjoy many holidays (Christmas and new year's Eve holiday, Easter and semester break).

2.) our deserts, however, provided the perfect walk in the cool season. Recently I walked along the proposed route, and came to know how rewarding route: desert green and flowering, with the full and wonderful weather.

3) anyone who visited the Negev and Judean desert in Western tiiram company know how much they get from the desert. There are many reasons: spectacular and unique phenomenons in craters and Eilat mountains, impressive canyons in the Negev and Judean desert, the dead sea and its clear sea, and colorful coral reef, desert, plants and unique encounters with animals. To this we must add the biblical view of living the Bible stories, as well as world heritage sites such as Masada and Spice route.

4.) created a combination that wish to take advantage of circumstances: in Chinese, the other deserts and in North Africa, security mode. Prices are low, and arriving in Europe can be reached quickly and cheaply, near field to the end of the runway.

C. objectives

In light of those facts mentioned above, I am convinced that goals below all girls obtainable:

1.) the desert attract many fans from Israel and abroad. hope and assume that trail will encourage the culture of walking in the whole country, and cost her the world map. (At that stage will be displayed in the future).

2.) desert trail will improve the economic situation in the Negev and Judean desert. The need for services such as accommodation, transport, catering, training, food, equipment, various attractions, sites, etc. The main impact is expected in communities like Eilat, rope and deer communities West of Middle-Earth, mitzpe Ramon, Negev communities, Dimona, Arad and Tamar Council communities, a quiet season tourist speaking (Hanukkah).

3) desert path effect laterally too pedestrian for: are expected to seize the opportunity and other sites will return to their home countries before (e.g. sea finishers are expected to visit). In addition, visitors to additional services like travel agencies, services, etc.

D. implementation

1.) do not require paving new pathways, since the route consists of existing trails. The only action required in signposting and marking (as is the case throughout Israel trail and the Golan).

2.) most of the work is the existence of disclosure for marketing activities, and taking. It is recommended that you establish a website for which the relevant information will be brought to emphasize the advantages of, and be provided an answer to questions that might bother those interested (for example, a reference to peace and security has prevailed on the trail). It is possible and desirable to display pictures and videos showcasing the treasures waiting for Laura to go.

3.) is required where attractive highlighting the desert experience and/or refers to a point of interest, such as:

The Israeli desert-ISRAEL DESERT TRAIL

Bill Red Sea Dead Sea-RED SEA DEAD SEA TRAIL

And perhaps that's where the antelope-like paintings – IBEX TRAIL (which can be seen all along the path).

4.) required logo, you may consider using Capra character, above.

E. for orbit

You can choose any route, provided that when the major points of interest such as the dead sea, Masada, Judaean Desert canyons, craters, separateness and Eilat mountains give logistic solutions.

I'd like to propose the route I chose. Length approx. 550 miles he covers as stated the Red Sea to the dead sea, and can be completed at Masada, Ein Gedi or Arad (all checked field alternates). Moving part over Israel trail, mainly between the freedom to deploy grottoes, on well-marked trails others. I tried to choose a reward and focuses on the most spectacular points. He also thought about variants that allow to choose the correct route to his preference for his abilities, and his conduct.

And how?

1) first of all, I hope this letter recipients in government offices, local authorities and other bodies to adopt the proposed vision and reach the same conclusion to mine about the benefits a lot is expected from the desert.

2) Secondly, one factor, which pick up the gauntlet and challenge.

3). third, required good faith – and we all have it in abundance? "

(So far, a copy of the letter)

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אמנון לנגי  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 2:17:05 PM(UTC)
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I would suggest to consider Biblical Desert Trail name and abbreviation (BDT) and remove the word ISRAEL. After all, part of the route of the exodus from Eilat and the dead sea
Application stage did wisely as logistical barriers were skimming and highlighting all that is required and check website
The mistake you made when you wrote "you can choose any route. It has been dumping responsibility onto others.
You must come up with "absolute barrier" and explain why.
The warming ties with Egypt and the outbreak of peace with the Palestinians can be in accord with the Egyptian:) Hart Continue the route to Mount Sinai.

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#3 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 2:20:26 PM(UTC)
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Whether you should also provide an overview of historical sites along the route?
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#4 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 2:26:57 PM(UTC)
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Dear friends,

A detailed written way soon, but still you will find above route description and photos represent.

I'd love to hear opinions and criticism, for example about:

A. the proposed route in relation to the possibilities inherent in the desert is the best route? Where is Miss

B. for route in relation to the Israel trail route in the desert-part note, only route, on the southern section.

C. do you think the above route would attract Israeli travelers (e.g. graduates of Israel National Trail)?
4. aichrotchm with the Kings, how much the route above may matter?

E. whether and how you want to go along the proposed route (in sequence, or one or two long sections)?

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

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#5 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 3:36:33 PM(UTC)
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Clearly trying to keep the discussion around the average, but I don't think a previous thread אותו״ ש״לתלוש is a good solution.

There were (also) ainiinity reactions, now the images don't appear (repaired) and posts lack context (don't think people transfer their responses and even if I did, it wouldn't be right kohornti).

The main problem I think that this thread can be entertained, then what? Open thread-Tuesday

Basis of interest:

A + b is not clear what it is. In relation to Israel is more rewarding but harder on the physical and logistic. To go, a midrasha section until Arad no place regulated community is quite long (although you can deviate to hotels at the dead sea).
Did you walk it in sequence?

Yes, some of them part of the trail (as supposed to walk again large portions in the Israel National Trail (INT) could lower the attractiveness among graduates.

D I think slightly daunting logistics, but maybe I'm missing here. Perhaps the tough one go it as oarint.

5. fancy. Probably not going to be able to walk the entire sequence, but soon I went large portions of it.

Well done on the initiative.

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#6 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 3:44:02 PM(UTC)
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I'd love to hear opinions and criticism, for example about:

A. the proposed route in relation to the possibilities inherent in the desert is the best route? Where is Miss

The route is specified in terms of the landscape. Not given enough thought to the logistics issue. This speaking more challenging route for Israel.

B. for route in relation to the Israel trail route in the desert-part note, only route, on the southern section.

Overseas tourists are coming to go for Israel.

C. do you think the above route would attract Israeli travelers (e.g. graduates of Israel National Trail)?

Many Israelis are travelling all the time all the streams along the route you suggested, regardless for Israel.

In order for a particular route, caught in a new long trail should have for marketing purposes.

4. aichrotchm with the Kings, how much the route above may matter?

A few foreign travelers go this route in five years. The thing that route logistics hindrance.

I know the situation with foreign tourism for Israel. A significant change in value in 2011.

Until then were. Only two trails in Israel bring and bring tourists abroad in significant numbers: Bill Israel and Jesus trail.

When Israel tour for desert 5000 tourists a year (ounching Nick!. ) For the desert go 500. ..

Ask Israel cascade (the Golan) some foreign tourists strolling along the trail.

The Guide and the website of Jesus have proposed other routes.

Ask oz ionization what percentage of visitors walking route is the primary route of Jesus, the Gospel. (In.)

Stronghold invest a lot of money in the marketing Gospel abroad, and that drawing obvious attractions for tourists from abroad, not some loners.

E. whether and how you want to go along the proposed route (in sequence, or one or two long sections)?

I go in a substantial portion of the route in the desert according to the proposed minimum of Tilapia and Danny's comments.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

As it comes in (your) is guaranteed!

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#7 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 4:12:09 PM(UTC)
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As one who did Israel National Trail (in summer that further emphasizes the water).

You must also consider the points of food and water.

Perhaps raising awareness for filtering and purifying water washers and spring water (like eye farm).

Personally, except I didn't use farm beljoxa's eye water back and therefore cannot contribute.

Maybe later if I find time, I'd like to go up for the experience.

In addition it can attract many Israelis who did the Israel trail looking for another lengthy trail. With an emphasis on long point that other alternatives is quite short.

I find it difficult to understand what you're trying to hatchrse tourists from sand instead of concentrating on travellers from the country. Most of the mountains in the Israel National Trail (INT) are Israelis. Even if hypothetically travelling abroad "pour" money still relative and a minority engulfed Israelis pull out eventually.

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#8 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 5:33:28 PM(UTC)
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Amnon, Eyal, Yair, yankele, Arctic-

In your open thread on the issue.

Right, Yair, there will be costs for opening the thread.
The right move was to copy everything that is relevant-and especially the issue of promoting Israel trail-new thread
Bothered and opened such a concatenation path Forum I asked Israel to copy.
Since this request was not answered, I copied my post.


Amnon.
Many thanks, and thanks also for your help in raising here.
I'm sure I've made quite a few mistakes in the wording of the letter, I have no prior experience in contacting the authorities on the subject.
Anyway, the letter has been sent. Won so far to only two answers. If the subject will be raised for discussion, get your suggestions, especially regarding the Bible.


Eyal.
It's a good idea. I think I'd do it in a way, treat Bible too.

Yair.
Thank you-note, though a few weeks have passed since the day I posted the word, you're the first to ask about the logistics and if I went. And I'm not surprised, given the way the original rolled.

A. best--they missed a better alternative?

B. logistics in itself and not the Israel trail went along the route, but in three to five days. However, I will emphasize that reason was logistical disruptions, but family obligations (two birthdays, graduation party). I grabbed all my provisions, e.g. for four and five days, although most wouldn't be necessary. Managed well without landfills. In my opinion, easier to go this winter-we kept it on course-winter than go in the Israel National Trail (INT) in the fall and spring.
The resolution of water and food in each section-the burden of proof on me, of course--treat the story through sheichtb. Given the reviews in choosing the route.
(Some examples: descent to yotvata, passed through the parking lot, login to the Judean desert and Arava Junction Road through these elections from Tamar even reasons derived from twaai's beauty but gave our opinion on the combination for wills).

C. thanks.
4. Logistics related. Actually Yes and arrivals to the route's beauty secret is to desert.
E. We recommend the track very much. I sure get a lot of good shots.

Yankele, thank you.

A. thanks. Glad you like my opinion about beauty of the track. Logistics I was referring to above (and will be in the way).
In thanks.
I walked along the Israel trail, there are outlets along I went many times (especially in the desert, everyone loves). Enjoyed it very much, and I want more.
I don't want to surf on the discussion concerning the northern part of Israel, bring some data.
5. highly recommended.

Arctic, thank you.

The water and the food, I was referring to above (will expand when I get the story through).
This is just a self-serving project will emphasize for the winter (I recall you in the Negev desert in September. In December, that's another story altogether).

You're right, and we have no intention to focus solely on the moves. The specific we emphasized that the target audience is local, too (see the letter to the authorities.

Presented above)

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#9 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 6:05:26 PM(UTC)
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I answered your questions in the other thread.
You can copy the answers here.
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#10 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 6:38:01 PM(UTC)
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Yuval.

And of course I want.

Yuval reaction q.


"A large experts leave me for opinions.

When f.

C completely. Whoever ends the Israel trail immediately looking for the next thing. We went for the Golan, are planning the Valley and great white trail I think much will be.

4. all written by SJ (not about the standards of overseas trails, kiosks, access to water, filth and dirt) would be doubly for. In short, no.

The very. In two-days probably as went the SJ's South (Eilat bmassib actually made two trips daily 3D) "

Yuval, thank you.

C. + thank you

4. Indeed, I don't see the travellers. Perhaps the travelers.

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#11 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 6:43:38 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Jimmy.

About Logistics — I guess I got to shower between the sections and eat a hearty meal, etc. Most who performs longest path sequence is necessary to reach a regulated one for ten days. Necessary logistics could be or Natalie, it doesn't matter.

See who gets out of the way-stations that meet the description both yotvata, Sapphire (?), midreshet Ben Gurion (to understand the route skips mitzpe Ramon), Arad, Ein Gedi.

Haarava Junction does not meet the criteria even though you can buy there is food and water.

This is not a short sequence with relatively few such stations, and make this trail relatively ״קשוח״, and slightly more people will feel the same.

A word about purifying the back-most Israelis (and a decisive majority of the tourists) don't want, lacking the skill and experience to deal with purifying back (Although dynamic and changing situation throughout the season and season to season). Wait for the complete hatiiachsothch about the logistics, but the more you include carrying water for a couple of days or based on purifying small washers so the chances to grab momentum in moves to distance.

Incidentally, if the purpose is best this is a database path that attracts hikers, so that beauty (although it often is in the eye of the beholder) would not be the sole criterion. The ability to make sections easy, logistics etc. will cause. It's hard to find the balance between the two. Although finally on the path to progress in any direction and not run over all corners of the pet.

Hope to find some free time to delve into the details of the route, and may have concrete proposals on the subject.

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#12 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2016 7:31:17 PM(UTC)
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Brian, thank you.

Logistics-you're right, it's very important that you specify the points going long section in sequence.
Therefore, the planning phase was doing a very experienced moves, know well the world shakes, as well as Israel and its conditions.
Better if I could go the route, but the alternative was to go as I went, or scrap the idea — and that it's important for me to pass him.

Suppose you agree with me that lholch short sections more difficult mentally to get noisier as compared to the many days in a row. Therefore, if the Baker Theroux allows himself the occasional large deviation doesn't trail all the logistical problems are resolved.

Water and food-made (above) a detailed list of the points acetidoth and water + distances.

I think you will find that a lot of points as you tend to appreciate. I'd love to hear your opinion.

Striving for the optimal route-right. The considerations were not only beauty, but also manage and additional considerations. I think we balance, would love to learn.

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:46:23 AM(UTC)
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Through the desert without a doubt beautiful. It is designed primarily for young Israelis, young in spirit and tibby walk.

A few highlights from my experience with tourists from abroad: they have a justified fear of the desert. They would rather go that route

The chance to meet other travellers. A few nights ago hosted at my young Mare who went solo tempo

Some 30 miles a day. He was looking for a partner to take care of and verify if the partner retires, for one reason or another,

Will travellers departing around the same time. Another Walker joined the Negev in the Israel National Trail (INT) AVI

Because of the logistics. These are only two of the cases I've met over the years.

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 2, 2016 11:12:11 AM(UTC)
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Through the desert without a doubt beautiful. It is designed primarily for young Israelis, young in spirit and tibby walk.

A few highlights from my experience with tourists from abroad: they have a justified fear of the desert. They would rather go that route

The chance to meet other travellers. A few nights ago hosted at my young Mare who went solo tempo

Some 30 miles a day. He was looking for a partner to take care of and verify if the partner retires, for one reason or another,

Will travellers departing around the same time. Another Walker joined the Negev in the Israel National Trail (INT) AVI

Because of the logistics. These are only two of the cases I've met over the years.

I know some guys who went thru the Americans discourage the Israel trail by five years the largest alumni in USA

And Israeli desert scary company with experience. Quick rhythms also 30 km a day.

I think you're right about Europeans in the desert case. They fear more than desert.

But in this particular place is also good because it makes for travelers to find each other online before leaving the track thus forming community.

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2016 1:11:08 PM(UTC)
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Dear friends,

I'd love to hear opinions and criticism, for example about:

A. the proposed route in relation to the possibilities inherent in the desert is the best route? Where is Miss

B. for route in relation to the Israel trail route in the desert-part note, only route, on the southern section.

C. do you think the above route would attract Israeli travelers (e.g. graduates of Israel National Trail)?
4. aichrotchm with the Kings, how much the route above may matter?

E. whether and how you want to go along the proposed route (in sequence, or one or two long sections)?

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

A, b * notice that uploaded to the OSM is incomplete with respect to the uploaded route GOOGLE MAPS.

Detailed outline suggestions: (in the first two years later when it's time, complete updated at 03.02.2016.)

Part 1 -why start from Taba? I think it's unnecessary walking on the road and much more likely to start school field (like a trail if Israel comes in the middle of the day) includes a visit to the coral reserve and in the school field.

Up-mountain parking lot about 15 km with about 950 m 350 m ascents and descents. (While the latter leaves water and literature for travellers).

Section 2 – after the last ladder in Netafim was heading north on the Green (and give up a night parking lot walking, mountain Netafim shachamon, ibex) and connects via Israel for Netafim River. It also added a visit to the Valley.

Approximately 18 km with about 750 meters with approximately 1200 m ups downs (requires burial/water jump).

Section 3 -after about 4 connection and 4 of Israel was heading West to stream both to go through Red Canyon and sleep in a garage overnight second Creek (Requires burial/water jump).

Out about 900 feet with approximately 16 km and 400 m ups downs (you can add her to the prom and return to the garage-4 stream miles total with about 150 m/)

Section 4 — notice not die through about these copy them for some reason blue. Assuming the other night in a parking lot then continue through the straight sections (the Red) and connect to the Green East toward top.

In this case a reduction through higher knee directly into Lake garage will prevent approximately 29 km (from 8 km to 4 on 4 sections simply) with about 550 m 1050 ft ups and downs. (Water/Lake prevent food).

Section 5 -round in Timna Park to a full day and night sasgon garage (distance depends on the will of the traveler)-filling the water creating/entering the Park.

Section 6 – similar to what you suggested, but instead mount yotvata, Wadi yotvata or purple (can also include 2 km total aberration to mount purple). Approximately 26 km with 850 m ups/downs.  (Requires burial/water jump).

Section 7 – similar to what you suggested including fingers – jump the case if necessary.

TBA.

C. indeed attract Israeli travelers seeking a long trail that can be made in the budget. I think the less relevant for the entire weekend travellers because it is based on well-marked trails that even toiilim like that weekends often by hotrel.

D. could certainly discourage serious matter like the desert particularly during winter/spring.

The approach is usually to leave the country to tour weekends/holidays/short breaks forced conversations on holidays at work and planned Vacations/holidays holidays for long outside.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:08:16 PM(UTC)
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To me, thank you!
I love the thorough reply!
The investment, looking for alternatives, and even Rob high distances.

The OSM map maps very problematic to use. I have outlined above problems, just mention that she allows to select any timeline, but makes the marks to choose the route that is the same as for exists. She didn't recognize the busy stream copy (which is the route), not the Gorge and other conflicts, Netafim enforces its markup.
Noam (thanks again), upload both the Israel trail route, it is not marked on maps.

A + b

Section 1-right foot from Taba does occur on the road. You may have better grounds for reference in the future.

קטע2-testing in the field also the alternative offered, and of course the Israel trail route. I think it's better we have constructed, two flavors:

The very worthy Hamon. Stream Yael Habib, I agree that it is less impressive in its current state (and maybe the route will evacuate the hydrologieth systems from channel?).

The second argument is administrative. Very convenient to go allocating stream Yael Eilat/Eilot North to obtain water and food, friendly path (must be in relation to administrative-single axis + Botanical Park + Park land of lizards). This alternative offers to choose her first days are acceptable, and exit to continue with water and subsequently feed (not always found in water about.). Lost Valley is located on the route (walking from the garage to mount night shachamon. BTW-and quiet leading going into the square node (both directions, SJ Valley, Nahal rodad).


קטע3-really wanted to include Red Canyon, and testing in the field two alternatives to do so (the one based on upper uterus + mount uzziah), and the other on the green. In addition to the problem it indicates, there are other problems: we wanted to avoid dependence on route 12, was closed to traffic (e.g., fast walking or car arrives uziyahu for caching). The Green also considers variation due to having to walk back (although along the beach, 4 km away, if repetitive way llgon).

Section 4: this is the map of the route through the high walls.

Section 5 should also devote a day to prevent (for example white and pink Canyon).

Section 6 – indeed, we discussed the three options. I went up, tseela impressed reports (mainly of-), Creek Golf might be a little difficult for movement (think about the solitary pedestrian carrying a backpack). After we diagnose Scarlet yotvata, consider to offer three alternatives to the selection.

Section 7: the route of the fingers. Incidentally, one of the major considerations he purchase products (no fingers where to buy food).

C + d + e – thank you!

I once again thank you, and happy to criticism and suggestions with regard to the rest of the track.

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Just to clarify-you can add the information of all existing trail OSM in the field (and not). The preferred way is to sample him walking with smrabion/GPS, then upload the gpx files to OSM (JOSM's most comfortable with, in my opinion), to enhance the data and add the relevant information (the type for the highlight color if available). That way their information up-to-date and relevant.
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Bill, thank you very much.
Thanks again also on the map.
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#19 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2016 11:10:40 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the effort and move successfully.

Do you track parts that aren't on any problems with SJ fire zones? I mean soon. "ל"בדוק the proposed route segments, Masada.

(«High water gone, dead sea water, Mediterranean sea water (SJ) and even many years ago «the dead sea water through the Valley just salt water

Sea not more)

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2016 1:32:25 AM(UTC)
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I have to find time to do this route. I was going to do this winter, but in the end I Arad Eilat close month Philippines instead.
However, during Pesach I steal a week benefit section will prevent the recommendations of Eilat by Giora.
Regardless, I'll try to upload a GPX file listed of all the Masada desert to Eilat by Giora offer.
To walk him next winter.
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